West Coast Ivy League

College Search & Selection
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<p>The purpose of this thread is to create a West Coast Ivy League (based on ranking, selectivity, etc.).</p>

<p>Palm League
1. Stanford
2. CalTech
3. Pomona College
3. Harvey Mudd College
3. Claremont McKenna College
6. UCB
7. UCLA
8. USC</p>

<p>If you feel that any adjustments need to be made, please comment with a list of your own and an explanation for why you made the change.</p>

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<p>Before I get bashed for the three-way tie:</p>

<p>The purpose of the Claremont Consortium was to have a family of colleges where each has its own specialization/focus of study. Because Pomona was the first of the bunch, it’s obviously going to be the most well-rounded (thus creating a greater “liberal-artsy” feel and placing it higher in LAC rankings). Whereas Harvey Mudd has the best undergraduate engineering program in the country, Claremont McKenna is very well-respected among government and business professionals. In finance alone, the two top west coast target schools are Stanford and CMC (yes, NOT Berk. The only real recruiting you’ll get for finance is at HAAS, which is about as different as the farm school at Cornell). I promise this has nothing to do with any sort of college-pride bias. </p>

<p>The two UCs are towards the bottom because of budget cuts and selectivity standards commonly placed upon public institutions.</p>

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<p>Clever name. You do realize that the Ivy League is a sports league, not based on “ranking, selectivity, etc.”? </p>

<p>I am looking forward to watching Caltech play, well, any of those other teams. :-)</p>

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<p>Woe to the Cal Tech basketball players who have to face UCLA in this new athletic conference. </p>

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<p>@SlitheyTove‌ </p>

<p>We’re following society’s understanding of the Ivy League, which is exactly based on “ranking, selectivity, etc.”.</p>

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<p>Caltech’s athletic teams would not stand a chance against our high school teams. Robotics would be another story.<br>
What is the point of this? The Pac-12 already works pretty well for the West.</p>

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<p>Can Cal Tech students play them in basketball on 2K instead?</p>

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<p>The (real) Ivy League is a D1 sports conference. Nothing more.</p>

<p>How is Mudd gonna fare against 'SC in the Coliseum? Will the Scripps’s girls volunteer to be cheerleaders? :D</p>

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<ol>
<li>Stanford</li>
<li>Caltech</li>
<li>Pomona College.</li>
<li>Claremont Mckenna College.</li>
<li>Harvey Mudd College.</li>
<li>UCB</li>
<li>UCLA</li>
<li>Reed College</li>
<li>Scripps</li>
<li>USC</li>
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<p>Let’s try to keep just eight schools on the list :slight_smile: </p>

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<p>Maybe you are, but I see no reason to perpetuate inaccuracy and misinformation. Is that really what they’re teaching you to do at CMC? ;-)</p>

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<p>The real Ivy League is indeed a sports conference, but you are kidding yourself if you think the term or concept of “Ivy League” is nothing more than that league.</p>

<p>To begin with the term Ivy League was in common usage long before the sports conference itself was founded in the 1950s. And to many members of the public, including the apparently OP, the term signifies much more than those eight schools playing various sports against each other. Wiki puts it this way:</p>

<p>“The term Ivy League also has connotations of academic excellence, selectivity in admissions, and social elitism.
The term became official after the formation of the NCAA Division I athletic conference in 1954.[3] The use of the phrase is no longer limited to athletics, and now represents an educational philosophy inherent to the nation’s oldest schools.[4]”</p>

<p><a href=“Ivy League - Wikipedia”>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_League&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Exactly. And I’m guessing that there are few – very few – posters on cc who have birthdays prior to 1954. So, for this current generation, the Ivy League has always been known as the Ivy League. </p>

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<p>So they are ignorant. Let’s take the opportunity to educate 'em, huh? :)</p>

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<p>So we should add in MIT, Swat, Johns Hopkins Northwestern, WashU, Williams, Amherst? Northwestern is D1; Hopkins play D1 in one sport. :D</p>

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<p>Let’s move Georgetown to the Ivy League so we can win at basketball again, while we’re at it.</p>

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<p>Can we stop hijacking this thread to define “Ivy Leage”? </p>

<p>You know the purpose of this post. Go make another thread.</p>

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<p>Are we into the off season already? The things bored kids playing out their senior years think of.</p>

<p>I’ll add an emoticon, like everyone else … :-@ </p>

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<p>These schools don’t have enough in common to make sense as a group other than a “highly selective California schools” list. Some are universities with graduate schools, some are undergraduate only LACs. They range in undergraduate enrollment from 1,250-28,700. Why the need to create a list of West Coast Ivies? Prestige envy?</p>

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<p>Goodness people this thread is just for fun. Lighten up. Having publics and LACs in the mix are what make it interesting.</p>

<p>So far 1/15 responses have actually been productive and in line with the topic :-L </p>

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<p>It’s just that… This idea isn’t new. I’m not really seeing the purpose. Do you want to just discuss top west coast schools or do you think a thread on CC can actually form a “West Coast Ivy League”?</p>

<p><a href=“The palm league or the west coast ivy league. - UC Transfers - College Confidential Forums”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/uc-transfers/1141903-the-palm-league-or-the-west-coast-ivy-league.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p><a href=“West Coast "Ivy League," - College Search & Selection - College Confidential Forums”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/12914-west-coast-ivy-league-p1.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p><a href=“What schools do you consider as "Western Ivies" - Applying to College - College Confidential Forums”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-admissions/382185-what-schools-do-you-consider-as-western-ivies.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>…Some of those threads are from 2004. </p>

<p>I’m just fishing for opinions. Obviously a thread like this will lead to discussions about top west coast schools. Why one is stronger than the other in this area, why the size of this one is better, why this public is better than that private (or vice versa), etc. etc. </p>

<p>Just like any other rankings, some students can actually use this thread as a good starting point to learn about the differences of top west coast schools. In fact, I came across some of the posts you linked while I was conducting my college search and saw plenty of information that was outdated.</p>

<p>Can we please revert back to the original topic now?</p>

<p>Thank you.</p>