<p>John Carroll...it's only a few minutes east of Cleveland</p>
<p>John Carroll is what, two miles from Case Western? three?</p>
<p>I know that you only might want to look in some areas of OH, but you might want to consider Kenyon, Marietta, Otterbein, U of Dayton, and Ohio Wesleyan, Hiram, or Wittenberg too. Also, you might choose to consider Earlham in Indiana. Just wanted to list some other schools just in case.</p>
<p>I have two kids at Case Western & they are out and about at all hours of the night. I am not afraid for them at all. It is like any college campus you have to be aware of your surroundings and use common sense. It is always good to travel in pairs after it gets dark ANYWHERE.</p>
<p>The Case campus is mixed in with the Cleveland Art Museum, University Hospital, the Botanical Gardens, the Natural History Museum, and I could go on. It is really a very nice location. Cleveland does have some problems but we are not afraid to go downtown & participate in any events that are taking place. </p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
<p>The itinerary has been pretty much finalized as UPitt, CMU, Oberlin, Wooster, and Denison in 3 nights/4 days. Whew. Three of those will be self-tours, though, because I'm visiting over Easter weekend (we don't celebrate Easter). Case didn't make the cut not so much for safety issues as a realization that it's remarkably similar to my math/science high school where I feel academically stifled/unimportant.</p>
<p>Thank you, everyone, for your help!</p>
<p>I think you will like Wooster.</p>
<p>I don't think you'd like Bucknell, (speaking as a Bucknell grad from long ago). Large Greek scene and not the "intellectual" atmosphere you seek. If you are a "fit" for Oberlin, Swarthmore......m,m,,m,m, I don't think Bucknell (and, similar LAC's) are a good "fit"....IMHO</p>
<p>As a current student at Case Western I'm very sorry to hear that Case was nixed for "safety"... I've never felt anything but safe here. It's just like any other college campus in an urban environment (i.e. UPitt and CMU, which were on your list).</p>
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<p>I'm also kind of surprised that CMU's still on the list after reading this... Based upon my CMU visit and my experience here, Case is a more relaxed and supporting academic environment. CMU's elitist high-pressure attitude is why I turned them down for Case; I'd rather have the top-notch academics and be happy at the same time.</p>
<p>I sincerely hope that you find the right college for you, and you've already decided that Case isn't, which is totally cool. But I do hope that you made that decision for the right reasons, and that you didn't dismiss what could've been a great fit.</p>
<p>Good luck! We swim against Wooster and Oberlin regularly and the athletes all seem to be good people.</p>
<p>You can try Kenyon College</p>
<p>Thanks for the interesting musings, everyone. CMU isn't really on my list--for the academic/pre-professional vibe--but I'll take a look around since I'll be visiting Pittsburgh for a day.</p>
<p>My major issue with my high school is its math/science focus, leading to less funding and less opportunities in the humanities. This is the same sort of vibe I get from Case--which is great for math/science people, and people from my school have been very happy at Case--but I'd like to get away from 4 more years of being in the academic minority.</p>
<p>Wittenberg University?? Beautiful campus, but I don't know about Computer Science there. Soemthing to check into. I assume you are a Junior in High School??</p>
<p>Case is actually Case Western Reserve University and if I am not mistaken it came about through the merger of WRU (a liberal arts and humanities school) and Case Institute of Technology (the name explains itself) many years back. I have several good friends who are CPAs that graduated from CWRU as well as several attorneys who did their liberal arts undergrad there.</p>
<p>I think that the OP is selling the school short by simply focusing on the math science side of the school. Also to echo midwestmom, the east side of Cleveland and its suburbs are quite nice. 20-25 minutes southeast of the school is Chagrin Falls which could easily be mistaken as the quintessential small new England town if you didn't know you were in Ohio. Geauga County is the home to Amish farms and restaurants, maple syrup festivals etc and beautiful rolling hills and its an easy short drive (30 minutes?) from campus. You are truly doing yourself a disservice to skip CWRU and northeast Ohio.</p>
<p>I feel like we are giving the OP too hard of a time here, but seriously, the humanities at Case Western Reserve University are nice.</p>
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The Baker-Nord Center for the Humanities</p>
<p>Established in 1996 with a generous gift of endowment from Eric and Jane Nord, the Baker-Nord Center is dedicated to:
1. highlighting and celebrating the arts and humanities at Case (Art History and Art, Classics, English, History, Modern Languages and Literatures, Music, Philosophy, Religion, Theater and Dance) through public lectures, panels, performances, and special programs;
2. supporting research and creative work in the humanities and arts through fellowships, grants, and symposia, as well as encouraging new and innovative directions in research and creativity, including the digital humanities, through public forums and open discussion;
3. facilitating cross-disciplinary and inter-disciplinary collaborations among Case Western Reserve University faculty and members of other University Circle institutions that address questions and problems of broad human interest, in and out of the academy.
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<p>It really is not just a math and science school. :)</p>
<p>eadad: I'm sure NE Ohio is wonderful, but I won't have a car as a college student and this trip out west is strictly for college-visiting purposes. </p>
<p>MidwestMom: I'm not knocking Case or anything, really. I just feel like it's not a good fit for me. By reputation, it will attract more math/science than humanities kids, and I get the sense that a lot of those math/science kids minor in the humanities--making me wonder, how many people are majoring in the humanities? Will the humanities be considered equally rigorous both in truth and in campus gossip? Will I get eye-rolls from my friends when I rave about the amazing paradoxes of Deconstruction? I'm interested in CS, but I'm not passionate about it. At Case, my sense is that more of my friends would be interested in the humanities but passionate about science.</p>
<p>It appears to me that Case is making a concerted effort to diversify into the humanities, but I don't particularly want to be part of that diversifying--rather, I'd like to attend a school where the humanities are fully established and even dominant for once.</p>
<p>Wittenberg might really be worth your while as a safety--excellent English department, there is a computer science department and they have great merit aid, including 5 full tuition scholarships (which you would be likely to get if you are competitive for schools like Oberlin or Kenyon). I think I remember that there is no application fee if you apply on-line.</p>