Western Schools for the 3.0-3.3 kid

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<p>Did you want to stay in California, or in the West? I know it’s a lot, but the first few pages have a list of schools you should consider. </p>

<p>This is the list in May 2010, on page 11. Page 6 has hyperlinks</p>

<p>Western Washington University Western Washington University
Washington State University Washington State University - Pullman, Washington
Pacific Lutheran University: Tacoma PLU - Pacific Lutheran University, academically rigorous liberal arts combined with professional programs, located in Tacoma, Washington, USA.
The Evergreen State College The Evergreen State College - a public, liberal arts & sciences college in the Pacific Northwest
Central Washington University Central Washington University
St. Martins: Lacey, WA Saint Martin’s University
Seattle Pacific University Seattle Pacific University</p>

<p>Portland State Portland State University | Home
Linfield College- McMinnville OR Linfield Home | Linfield College
Oregon State Home page for Oregon State University
Southern Oregon University: Ashland SOU : Southern Oregon University
Pacific University: Forest Grove Pacific University - Forest Grove, Oregon
George Fox Uniersity Newberg Oregon’s Christian University, Christian College | George Fox University
Oregon Institute of Technology, Klamath Falls, Oregon Oregon Institute of Technology | OIT, Bachelor’s, Master’s Degree Programs, Distance Education, Portland, Klamath Falls, La Grande, Medford, Seattle
University of Oregon University of Oregon</p>

<p>Chapman University Chapman University - Site Home
Dominican University, San Rafael Dominican University of California
University of San Francisco University of San Francisco (USF)
Saint Mary’s College of CA: Moraga Welcome to Saint Mary’s College of California
Notre Dame de Namur, Belmont Notre Dame de Namur University - NDNU
Menlo College, Atherton Menlo College - Silicon Valley’s Business School
California Lutheran University: Thousand Oaks California Lutheran University - Welcome
Humboldt State U Humboldt State University
Sonoma State U Sonoma State University
CSU Monterey Bay CSUMB ~ Homepage
Cal State Channel Islands California State University Channel Islands (CSUCI) - Camarillo, CA, USA
University of Redlands University of Redlands
University of the Pacific University of the Pacific - Stockton, San Francisco, Sacramento
Whittier College Whittier College
University of California Merced UC Merced</p>

<p>University of Nevada: Reno University of Nevada, Reno
University of Nevada: Las Vegas University of Nevada, Las Vegas
Sierra Nevada College: Incline Village, Nevada <a href=“http://www.sierranevada,edu%5B/url%5D”>www.sierranevada,edu</a></p>

<p>University of Arizona The University of Arizona, Tucson, Arizona
Northern Arizona University: Flagstaff Northern Arizona University - Home Page
Arizona State: Tempe Arizona State University
Prescott College: Prescott AZ Prescott College | For the Liberal Arts, the Environment, and Social Justice</p>

<p>University of New Mexico: Abq The University of New Mexico
New Mexico State: Las Cruces New Mexico State University</p>

<p>University of Montana: Missoula Future Students - The University Of Montana
Carroll College: Helena Montana Carroll College - A private, Catholic, liberal arts & professional college
Montana State: Bozeman Montana State University</p>

<p>College of Idaho The College of Idaho
University of Idaho <a href=“http://www.udiaho.edu%5B/url%5D”>www.udiaho.edu</a></p>

<p>Western State College of Colorado Live. Learn. Here. — Western State College of Colorado
Colorado State University Colorado State University - Fort Collins
University of Denver University of Denver
Mesa State University: Grand Junction Mesa State College of Colorado</p>

<p>University of Wyoming University of Wyoming</p>

<p>Univerity of Hawaii, Manoa University of Hawaii at Manoa</p>

<p>University of Utah The University of Utah
Westminster College: Salt Lake City Westminster College in Salt Lake City, Utah. A Private Comprehensive Liberal Arts College
Southern Utah University Southern Utah University - Cedar City, Utah
Utah State Welcome to Utah State University</p>

<p>University of Victoria: British Colombia University of Victoria - University of Victoria
Quest University Canada Quest University Canada </p>

<p>Do you have any financial limitations? Are you considering CSU’s?</p>

762

<p>Just an update on one of the colleges in the list above. Western State College of Colorado is now called Western State Colorado University as of a few months ago. From their website: WSCU is a public, liberal arts university located in Gunnison, Colo. With an enrollment of 2,300 taught by 120 faculty members, WSCU offers bachelors of arts degrees in 22 areas of study, a bachelor of fine arts, master of arts in education and a master of fine arts in creative writing.</p>

763

<p>I was wondering about updates. I can’t BELIEVE it’s been more than two years! Is it still appropriate for this thread?</p>

764

<p>I updated the list to include a few high match schools like University of Puget Sound and Willamette. I added LMU because two of the three people going there from my graduating class had less than a 3.5 UC GPA. To anyone who objects, note that Chapman and WWU are on the list. Western Washington is probably a much harder admit for B students than either of those two schools (especially since UPS underadmitted this year)</p>

<p>Washington
Western Washington University
Washington State University - Pullmann
Pacific Lutheran University: Tacoma
The Evergreen State College
Central Washington University
St. Martins: Lacey, WA
Seattle Pacific University
University of Puget Sound</p>

<p>Oregon
Portland State University
Linfield College- McMinnville
Oregon State University
Southern Oregon University: Ashland
Pacific University: Forest Grove
George Fox University - Newberg
Oregon Institute of Technology, Klamath Falls
University of Oregon: Eugene
Willamette University</p>

<p>California
Chapman University
Dominican University of California, San Rafael
Loyola Marymount University
University of San Francisco
Saint Mary’s College of CA: Moraga
Notre Dame de Namur University (Belmont, CA)
Menlo College, Atherton
California Lutheran University: Thousand Oaks
Humboldt State U - Arcata
Sonoma State U
Cal Poly Pomona
CSU Monterey Bay
Cal State Channel Islands - Camarillo
University of Redlands
University of the Pacific - Stockton
Whittier College
University of California Merced</p>

<p>Nevada
University of Nevada: Reno
University of Nevada: Las Vegas
Sierra Nevada College: Incline Village</p>

<p>Arizona
The University of Arizona, Tucson, Arizona
Northern Arizona University: Flagstaff
Arizona State: Tempe
Prescott College: Prescott AZ</p>

<p>New Mexico
University of New Mexico: Albuquerque
New Mexico State University: Las Cruces </p>

<p>Montana
University of Montana: Missoula
Carroll College: Helena Montana
Montana State: Bozeman </p>

<p>Idaho
The College of Idaho
University of Idaho</p>

<p>Colorado
Western State Colorado University
Colorado State University - Fort Collins
University of Denver University of Denver
Mesa State University: Grand Junction </p>

<p>Wyoming
University of Wyoming</p>

<p>Hawaii
University of Hawaii, Manoa</p>

<p>Utah
University of Utah
Westminster College: Salt Lake City
Southern Utah University - Cedar City
Utah State University
Utah Valley University</p>

<p>Canada: British Columbia
University of Victoria: British Colombia University of Victoria - University of Victoria
Quest University Canada Quest University Canada</p>

765

<p>i dont mind where i go honestly, but id like to go to a college with sports teams(d1), i just live with my mom, so i do have financial limitations-also what about gonzaga to add</p>

766

<p>I wouldn’t put Willamette, LMU, Gonzaga, or CPP on there, nor Chapman, especially for film, because it’s possible ( and the first three have good sports; Willamette is Div III, and the others are I. I think CPP is Div II ) but not a safety or match, which is what this was supposed to be. There are plenty of reaches. </p>

<p>But it’s not my thread, and it can evolve. If WWU or Chapman don’t belong anymore, It might make more sense to take them off rather than add more that don’t belong.</p>

<p>The original idea was “decent chance” for 3.0- 3.3.</p>

<p>But as I said ; things evolve.</p>

<p>ebruin, do you have a ballpark figure? Have you calculated your efc? Have you considered living at home?</p>

767

<p>I think it is a VERY good list… and also very helpful. I think there is going to be a lot of variation too, when you factor in test scores, EC’s and whether you are full-pay or not. My DS12 got into a few of the schools on this list… with a 3.3 and 2200 SAT scores. He got accepted to WWU… full ride, UPS…20,000 a year merit and U of Denver…10,000 a year merit.</p>

768

<p>Shrinkrap, for non engineering majors, Cal Poly Pomona is at least a match, if not a safety. The average GPA was a 3.32 while the middle 50% of students scored between a 450-560 on CR and a 480-620 on M. I suspect that if the CDS excluded the students accepted into CPP’s engineering program, the average GPA and SATs would go down substantially.</p>

<p>You’re probably right that I shouldn’t have included LMU. The students I know that are going there all took at least 5 APs in high school. Plus at least one is super wealthy (drives a Mercedes), so I’m assuming being full pay helped. But Willamette should stay. The only reason their SAT range is so high is because they mass email a free application to get students to apply and then throw out money to try to get them to enroll. As a result, they’ve got a much lower yield than either UPS or Lewis & Clark (its peer schools). As long as a low B student interviews at the school, they’ll probably get a fat envelope in the mail. Plus it’s not like they have much to loose other than $10 for sending scores. Willamette only requires ~250 word essay on the topic of the applicant’s choice. It’s not exactly a time consuming app.</p>

769

<p>^ Fair enough,. Makes sense to separate engineering at CPP. But I don’t see mixing GPA with SAT at California publics. In my experience, it just doesn’t work. For my son, GPA was not remotely related to SAT. Different profile for daughter. </p>

<p>Both high income urm.</p>

<p>As they say; your milage may varry. That seems important in this demographic.</p>

770

<p>ASU is excellent school for any business degree related. It is easy to get into and even has a honor college for those more brighter students.</p>

771

<p>my mom is a middle school teacher, i can leave it at that. I have no clue about financial aid, im more worried about what schools i will get into, also i will retake the sat.</p>

772

<p>By the way, does anyone know anything about Ft. Lewis College in Durango, CO? According to its website, it’s a public LAC that seems like a match/safety for 3.0 students with corresponding scores. The only problem I’m seeing with it, comes from the low 4 yr graduation rate, only 19%. Seeing as it appears that more than half the student live on campus, that’s a very low figure.</p>

773

<p>Curious how someone with a 3.3 got a full ride to WWU. :slight_smile: My D attends, and despite a 3.6 and decent SATs, no merit aid at all. We’re in-state and do not qualify in any way, shape or form for need-based aid.</p>

<p>ebruin, OOS publics are probably going to be more than you and your mom can afford. The tuition, fees, and R&B, even with federal financial aid, is probably too high. At WWU, tuition & fees alone are $18K for OOS. Add books and housing to that - and I can’t say it would be worth more than a CA school.</p>

<p>Gonzaga is a great school, but no guarantees that you would get enough aid to make it affordable. It is also getting increasingly selective.</p>

<p>Seattle University might be a possibility - they do pretty well with financial aid.</p>

774

<p>Ft Lewis is a fun school with lots of distractions (nearby skiing and hiking for starters).
It attracts many alternative and non-traditional students–including students from educationally disadvantaged backgrounds who tend to have a higher than normal drop out rates. Many students at Ft Lewis have goals in life do not necessarily include completing a college education.</p>

<p>Son of a friend attended and did eventually graduate from Ft Lewis. However, he was returning to school after 4 years in the Peace Corp and was recurrently ill with malaria during his college career. He also needed to take time off to work in order to attend school. The time off to work pattern at Ft Lewis is especially common with many of the students working seasonally full time in the local ski and tourism industries.</p>

775

<p>SO my daughter has a GPA around 3.3 or 3.4. But her SAT scores are low (400 each on Math / Reading). Her ACT composite is 18. She has been diagnosed with some auditory processing issues, as well as as memory and processing speed issues. She makes up for these issues by working hard (so her GPA is decent, but a lot of work has gone into it). </p>

<p>Given these circumstances, we are not sure exactly where she can get in. She is just entering her senior year (so we have to apply soon). Of course we have been thinking about it for a while, but I thought I would ask the experts on this forum for their recommendations.</p>

<ol>
<li><p>We are local to San Jose State. Her CSU eligibility index works out to about 3400. And I found on the SJSU website where they show the required number to get in for each major. Going by this gauge, she “should” get into SJSU. Is this a reliable metric, can we consider SJSU a “safe” school for her ?</p></li>
<li><p>She is outgoing and can mix anywhere. But we think she is likely to have a hard time initially with college classes, and so we are considering limiting our search to CSU schools which are not too far away - that means CSU Monterey Bay, SF State, Sonoma State, maybe Fresno State or Stanislaus State. Given her GPA/scores, what are her chances ?</p></li>
<li><p>She has always wanted to do something related to health sciences. Is this a major she can get into at a CSU ? How hard are the classes in this field, and how are the career prospects ?</p></li>
</ol>

<p>I realize these are broad and maybe difficult questions, so if I am posting on the wrong forum please feel free to redirect me.</p>

776

<p>I don’t have an absolute answer for you, but kids in the referral area, applying on time, and meeting the idex should have the best shot. With regard to majors, check out the matrix on this CSU mentor link. </p>

<p>[CSUMentor</a> - Plan for College - High School Students - Major vs. Campus Impaction](<a href=“Cal State Apply | CSU”>Cal State Apply | CSU)</p>

<p>Ooops! Wrong link!
<a href=“http://www.calstate.edu/sas/impactioninfo.shtml[/url]”>http://www.calstate.edu/sas/impactioninfo.shtml&lt;/a&gt;
<a href=“https://www.calstate.edu/sas/documents/impactedprogramsmatrix.pdf[/url]”>https://www.calstate.edu/sas/documents/impactedprogramsmatrix.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>There is also a California colleges forum, and each CSU has a forum, but many don’t get much activity.</p>

<p>Okay,maybe not each. Here is one for Sonoma State
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/sonoma-state-university/[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/sonoma-state-university/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

777

<p>@vasu100: Which schools give the best support/accommodation to LD kids? I would assume it differs from campus to campus. Also, have you considered Whittier College? Their best merit scholarships have an Oct. 15 (or thereabouts) deadline. When we visited, it seemed to have a great environment, and DD’s friend who just finished her freshman year, is very happy there.</p>

778

<p>WWU has an average GPA of 3.5, which is still lower than PLU’s 3.6 average. If you’re looking for help with scholarships and aid, try going onto College *******. Sign up and add in your GPA, scores, and everything else, and they’ll match you with a ton of scholarships.</p>

779

<p>I am updating to add a couple of WA privates. I think including this range of schools is good, some are at the top of the range, some lower, but people coming here should be exploring and can eliminate the options themselves:</p>

<p>Washington
Western Washington University
Washington State University - Pullmann
Pacific Lutheran University: Tacoma
The Evergreen State College
Central Washington University
St. Martins: Lacey, WA
Seattle Pacific University
University of Puget Sound
Gonzaga University
Whitworth University</p>

<p>Oregon
Portland State University
Linfield College- McMinnville
Oregon State University
Southern Oregon University: Ashland
Pacific University: Forest Grove
George Fox University - Newberg
Oregon Institute of Technology, Klamath Falls
University of Oregon: Eugene
Willamette University</p>

<p>California
Chapman University
Dominican University of California, San Rafael
Loyola Marymount University
University of San Francisco
Saint Mary’s College of CA: Moraga
Notre Dame de Namur University (Belmont, CA)
Menlo College, Atherton
California Lutheran University: Thousand Oaks
Humboldt State U - Arcata
Sonoma State U
Cal Poly Pomona
CSU Monterey Bay
Cal State Channel Islands - Camarillo
University of Redlands
University of the Pacific - Stockton
Whittier College
University of California Merced</p>

<p>Nevada
University of Nevada: Reno
University of Nevada: Las Vegas
Sierra Nevada College: Incline Village</p>

<p>Arizona
The University of Arizona, Tucson, Arizona
Northern Arizona University: Flagstaff
Arizona State: Tempe
Prescott College: Prescott AZ</p>

<p>New Mexico
University of New Mexico: Albuquerque
New Mexico State University: Las Cruces </p>

<p>Montana
University of Montana: Missoula
Carroll College: Helena Montana
Montana State: Bozeman </p>

<p>Idaho
The College of Idaho
University of Idaho</p>

<p>Colorado
Western State Colorado University
Colorado State University - Fort Collins
University of Denver University of Denver
Mesa State University: Grand Junction </p>

<p>Wyoming
University of Wyoming</p>

<p>Hawaii
University of Hawaii, Manoa</p>

<p>Utah
University of Utah
Westminster College: Salt Lake City
Southern Utah University - Cedar City
Utah State University
Utah Valley University</p>

<p>Canada: British Columbia
University of Victoria: British Colombia University of Victoria - University of Victoria
Quest University Canada Quest University Canada</p>

780

<p>I don’t think WwU offers many scholarships. I’ve known kids who are NMS attending and they have gotten only about $1k.</p>

<p>I also wouldn’t call someone wealthy just because they drive a Mercedes, I know about as many people who drive Mercedes or BMW as Volvos with approx same incme level. </p>

<p>I do know several people who are attending WWU through <a href=“http://wue.wiche.edu/search1.jsp[/url]”>http://wue.wiche.edu/search1.jsp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;