Wharton Difficulty

<p>How difficult is Wharton, I know that it is difficult, but how hard is it compared to other business schools such as Stern or something like that. I have a 3.88 GPA (unweighted) and a 4.15 (weighted). I have taken 6 - 7 AP classes in high school. Do you think I can survive at Penn if I am admitted? Also one of the reasons I do well in school is NOT my natural brilliance but rather that I work hard, I’m not naturally that smart. Also I’m no genius at math since I am in AB math, but I do make good grades in there. I seem to struggle at abstract things but am good at others.However, I do seem to have some business savvy, since I am ranked top ten in an international DECA competition (marketing). </p>

<p>Do you think I can handle Wharton?</p>

<p>Also much competitiviness do you feel at Penn? Are students constantly competing to get those few A’s?</p>

<p>well, i'm not there yet.... but every school is comprised of people like you and me and a few super geniuses. i'm sure you can handle wharton if you can take the most rigorous courseload in HS and do fine in the classes. a lot of people in wharton don't even have official business experience. </p>

<p>and yes, people are definitely competing to get the few A's... because they are just that.. few. apparently the curve is so that most people will get B's and such, but only the top 10% or so will get A's... that's tough.</p>

<p>You can absolutely handle Wharton--don't hesitate to apply/attend just because you think it may be too difficult. Keep a few things in mind. (1) If the adcom is admitting you, its because they think you can do well; (2) Wharton is a prestigious enough name that even if you aren't at the top of the class, you will still do well in terms of job offers and future opporunities; (3) If you really can't stand the thought of not being at the top of the class, keep in mind that it isn't impossible to do well at Wharton.</p>

<p>Everyone knows about the Wharton curve and assumes it must be impossible to get A's since only 20-25% of the class can get A's. But remember that in any given class, not every single person is competing for an A, for various reasons. Some people truly believe that because they go to Wharton, they're all set and it doesn't matter what grades they get. Others are really into the college party scene and don't study much. Others work hard but are inefficient. Of that 3rd subset, many cling to study methods that don't work. Studying at a business school is different than at HS. When you were short on time in HS memorization was the way to get things done, even in calc and chemistry--if you just memorized how to do the problem, even if you didn't know why, you would likely be able to use the same method on the test and still pull out an A. At Wharton, it doesn't matter if you know the definition and methods forwards and backwards, if you don't understand how to solve finance, stat, accounting etc. problems, you aren't going to get A's. You'd be surprised how many people don't realize this--they do their HW, group projects etc. passively, just sort of memorizing the methods; then they get exams filled with nuances that push you beyond what was on the HW and are lost. </p>

<p>As for natural brilliance, its not a pre-req to doing well. Most people who do the best at Wharton are hard workers, striving to learn every single detail. Sure there are naturally brilliant people, but don't assume that they necessarily grab all the A's; of the ones that I knew, most relied on their intelligent and did very little work and thus didn't get as high grades as they could have. As for competition, of course everyone knows about the curve and is competing. However, it isn't overt, hostile competition--no one is stealing notebooks or anything. What you will notice is that people don't go out of the way to help others because they realize it could hurt them; sure, they'll help their friends and classmates that they've gotten to know but they aren't going to volunteer info to kids who never come to class and then suddenly show up 2 days before the midterm wanting to borrow all the class notes.</p>

<p>It really is true that the people who are admitted are capable of not only handling but doing well at Wharton; you arrive on campus with a clean slate and then its all a matter of how much time and effort you're willing to put in. I really only met a handful of people at Wharton who were in way over their heads, and they admitted it; its not that they weren't intelligent but they lacked the solid fundamentals that the rest of their classmates had from HS--if you don't have proper grammar & diction or don't know how to do 1st order derivatives by the time you're in college, theres really not much that a college prof can do for you.</p>

<p>Hope this helps. If you're interested, definitely apply and don't worry about how difficult it is. Feel free to post/PM if you want study tips etc, esp those who will be frosh this fall.</p>

<p>I was not good at nor interested in Math. Therefore I was not good at nor interested in Finance or Accounting and I guess Statistics too. But I enjoy research and writing and did really well in the qualitative classes that were more about projects and papers. You don't have to love Math to go to Wharton. But you do need to understand going in that there is a lot of Math and therefore if you need help (which I did) you should ask for it (which I did not). It is really different from everything you did in high school so a lot of people have to make an adjustment.</p>

<p>I didn't find Wharton to be competitive in that way. You knew that people were trying to get As, and you could tell that some people (like me) knew they weren't going to get As and were content with less - especially in the core. But when it comes to concentrations I found that the classes were smaller and there was no curve and people were not competitive at all. Plus it doesn't pay off to be cutthroat in a school where so many group projects are required. It will come back to bite you.</p>

<p>what did you end up majoring in?</p>

<p>Thank you for your post, it was very helpful and truly a big piece of information concerning my college decision process. I shall contact you if I have any further questisons. Once again, thank you.</p>

<p>I was marketing and management. That's a pretty popular combo for the anti-math, pro-touchy feely people persons. I essentially didn't want to manage numbers or things. I wanted to work with people. Marketing and Management are great concentrations. Management is especially great because it is so broad and there are like 4 different tracks within the concentration.</p>

<p>Anyway if you are not quantitative (or are but don't enjoy it) Wharton still has a lot of options. And in these particular concentrations there's a lot of teamwork and comraderie.</p>

<p>aj725, what sort of study tips would you recommend to a business major? (or should i pm you?)</p>

<p>I was thinking of doing Marketing and Management. May still do it...</p>

<p>Whartonalum, see PM.</p>

<p>Wharton's tough and they are looking for a strong math background, but I think you'll be fine. Worry about getting in first lol.</p>