<p>I was told in the penn preview days by a faculty member that Wharton had an overall acceptance rate of 9%. Wow</p>
<p>lower than Harvard, MIT, Princeton....</p>
<p>I read in a business week article that it was 8% or 9% last year; I thought it would actually be more difficult since Penn had a major increase in the number of applications.</p>
<p>I'm pretty sure that HYPS's acceptance rate is lower.</p>
<p>Per at least one site, last year Wharton accepted 475 out of 3,938 applicants, for an acceptance rate of 12%.</p>
<p><a href="http://ivysuccess.com/upenn_2010.html%5B/url%5D">http://ivysuccess.com/upenn_2010.html</a></p>
<p>It would be interesting to know what Wharton's yield rate is--it must be incredibly high (high 80s or even 90s).</p>
<p>It is very high because it's a self-selected bunch of people. It's not like they can choose between Wharton undergrad and HBS undergrad....</p>
<p>Those are last year's #s. Since application are up this year, Wharton admit rate must be down. Overall admit rate down almost 2 points (17.7 down to 15.9) from 2010 so if you extrapolate to Wharton it would be 12% down to 10%. If Wharton apps increased disproportionately to College then 9% is possible. It's damn selective no matter how you figure, and definitely considerably harder to get into than other schools at Penn (If Wharton admit rate is 9%, then all other schools admit rate is almost double to average out to 15.9% overall). It's a shame that so much of a gap has opened up between the rest of Penn undergrad and Wharton - I think it has created tension that didn't used to exist. I don't think the rest of Penn has gotten worse, it's just that Wharton continues to get better and more in demand.</p>
<p>The College acceptance rate was 11% according to my sources.</p>
<p>for rd at least haha</p>
<p>Percy, what the **** are you talking about. Do we go to the same college? No one cares if Wharton has a lower acceptance rate.</p>
<p>i dont like this kinda thread...just keeps depressing me..</p>
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<p>Once you remove your head from your bum you see that the long-term trend between Wharton and the other schools is one of narrowing, not widening. The acceptance rate for the other schools used to be almost 50% whereas Wharton was always around 20%.</p>
<p>Crashing - everyone pretends not to care (most people know it's deeply rude to say "I'm better than you" out loud so they don't) but all the College/Wharton jokes show that there is a hidden tension. No one makes jokes about the difference between a psych major and a sociology major. Also there are no psych dept. sweatshirts, car stickers, mugs, etc. but Wharton has ones that are different from rest of Penn.</p>
<p>johnny - I didn't know that (50%vs 20% admit rate - what period was this?). I was thinking of last few years, not 30 years ago. I think the difference is that back then Wharton was not spoken of in same breath as HYP while today it is (right or wrong). This thread itself is an example of that. Even now with Penn at 15% yield, it is still not thought of as being comparable to HYP (which are after all only 5% ahead at 10% yield). The perception gap is bigger than something you can measure in pure numbers. </p>
<p>I think in the old days there was not as much of a separate Wharton undergrad identity and if anything, Wharton people wanted to feed off prestige of Penn liberal arts and not be thought of as going to a "trade school" to learn bookkeeping. No one 20 years ago ever proposed calling Penn "Wharton U" but now they do and not just in jokes.</p>
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That's not correct. In the mid-70s, I transferred into Wharton after first entering the College. The Wharton paraphernalia and uber-identity were very much in evidence at the time (I still have a couple of Wharton mugs from that period), and the "Wharton U" proposals were bandied about even then. Indeed, from stories I've heard from alumni much older than I (yes, there are a few out there), the Wharton/College friendly rivalry goes back at least 50 or more years (and probably longer). Further, back in the 70s, while Wharton seemed to be the first choice for all the Wharton students, Penn was often not the first choice school for those in the College. Not to knock the College in any way--I have great respect for it and always felt that it was grossly underrated. But just to put things in proper historical perspective, Wharton has enjoyed national and international preeminence for many decades, while the College has only attained its current level of prestige--at least among applicants--within the last 20 years and, especially, within the last 10 years. And the future looks very bright, indeed.</p>
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<p>I am well aware of it. I wrote a piece for the DP urging it earlier this semester. I think it would be a much better name for a variety of reasons (there is no state or Wharton, nor a Wharton State U, for starters)</p>
<p>But here "on the ground" as a current student it is clear to anyone that the rivalry, if you could even call it that, is entirely friendly and in jest. Wharton students aren't inherently superior, just focused on different interests.</p>
<p>We simply get along. Heck in 2002 Wharton dropped their independent W-circle logo in favor of the Penn shield.</p>
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<p>This is one of the reasons Lee Stetson pioneered the use of ED, to make sure the students applying here WANTED to be here (oh and lowering the acceptance rate and improving the yield was nice too ;)). It certainly paid off, two years ago Newsweek dubbed us the "hottest" school for "happy to be there"</p>
<p>... And the penn shield is a lot better looking. I think that wharton is wharton, already with the prestige. And I do feel that the college is vastly underrated and I wish that it would be respected as it deserves to be. My proposal would be to rename University of Pennsylvania to Penn University (Have it be unamously considered penn not upenn or u of penn but a standard name) and to change the CAS to Penn college and eliminate the huge name that HYP doesn't have. I think that's a major reason that penn doesn't have the prestige that HYP does, it's to confusing to name.</p>
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That's right. And I think Penn has made a very concerted effort to consolidate its reputation--including that of Wharton--into one that benefits the entire Penn brand (a la Harvard). That's undoubtedly the main reason behind the change of Wharton's logo to a variant of the Penn logo, as well as the University's no longer releasing separate admissions/yield rates broken down by individual school (although 3rd party web sites seem to somehow get ahold of those).</p>
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Oy! If you think that Penn is confused with Penn State now, . . . !</p>
<p>I'm a SAS man for Wharton University myself...</p>
<p>Wharton, Wharton Business, Wharton Law, Wharton Med...has a nice ring to it. Wharton is a properly WASPy name like Harvard and Princeton.</p>