<p>Bear in mind most colleges have a 50-60 credit limit on the number of credits they will accept from another institution, so if you are a junior already and thinking about transferring you are likely losing credits and graduating later.</p>
<p>Seriously, why are you still studying engin as a junior if you simply have no interest doing it? </p>
<p>You obviously chose Michigan over Penn for a reason … why are you letting your extended family bother you? Just ignore their “we’re from HYPSM so we’re better than you” crap … I do that every that with my own (and people from my HS) anyways.</p>
<p>^^ Although it is strange that the OP is studying engineering, many industrial engineering majors do find lucrative jobs in management consulting and operations engineering. Some later apply to MBA programs. I agree that the OP needs to stop worrying about what other people think and focus on completing the degree.</p>
<p>Lol, epic thread…</p>
<p>Bearcats, weren’t you planning on an MFE before? That’s changed?</p>
<p>I know a girl who did ioe at Michigan and is now getting her MBA from harvard. Suck it up. Stop being a little **<strong><em>. All you seem to care about is prestige and how people view you. Relax, live your life, and stop being ignorant. Instead of being thankful that you have such a great opportunity to get places in life, you just constantly </em></strong> and whine. please, Grow up</p>
<p>stbighouse1,
As a grown up, the advice you gave are the best any grown up could have given. Bravo to you.</p>
<p>bearcats,
You are young. You are smart. Time is on your side. You have a bright future. Have self confidence to move past other people’s petty opinions. Find your own happiness whatever that might be. Or move to the west coast and skip the dinner parites.</p>
<p>All of you are attacking Bearcats, saying he has negative personal qualities, and yet:</p>
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<li> Rarely any of you have actually answered the OP’s question</li>
<li> Most of you have been aggressive and rude,</li>
<li> Some are swearing and exhibiting a great lack of class</li>
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<p>God forbid someone wants to leave the all mighty, divine, godly Michigan for another school, huh? The nerve of some people…</p>
<p>You know, if I were a high school student reading this thread, and I encountered people responding with this kind of attitude, I wouldn’t want to attend Michigan either.</p>
<p>Yes, I may have been a little offensive so I apologize on that front. However, my message is still the same. The reasons why he’s opting to transfer are because of prestige. If he’s unhappy because he doesn’t fit in socially, Ann arbor depresses him, etc. Then that’s a perfectly legitimate claim. But because mommy and daddy will look down on him because of school prestige, then that breathes a showing of insecurities</p>
<p>The better question is, do his relatives realize that Michigan’s IOE program is the second best in the nation? I mean, I’m not even sure if HYP have engineering schools. That says a lot right there.</p>
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<p>If u did transfer to one of the better schools how would your career path be better?</p>
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<p>i thought u got a great internship, so u r on ur way to 100k starting salary, so exactly in what way r u regarded the kid who “cant cut it”?</p>
<p>Bearcats, I don’t quite get it, but I’ll respond. I honestly think all of the schools mentioned are a stretch. This will most likely be true because you are a junoir. I don’t see why one of these top schools would want a transfer for one year. I also don’t know how common it is to repeat one’s junoir year unless you’re switching majors.</p>
<p>With that being said, I’m suprised that you are not in the Ross business school with your internship experience. Maybe a switch to the Ross business school is a better choice than a transfer.</p>
<p>I wouldn’t want to be an Industrial engineer. I’d think I’d find the work boring. Not to put down Industrial engineers… I may be making a horrible generalization, but an EECS background or ME background might be more impressive to Investment banks too just because people think EECS or ME is harder.</p>
<p>I honestly don’t think that undergrad institution makes all that much difference in life. I really think people care far more about the prestige of your grad school when it comes to jobs and career. Maybe this is different for a very few industries in the US…like I banking, but in general I don’t think undergrad institution matters. There have been articles written about this. It’s even made the front cover of Time mag a few years back. With all this being said, I’d also feel frustrated if most of my family was from Ivys and I wasn’t. It is almost like the thing to do if you are from the east coast. I’m not and I don’t care, but I do understand why somebody from the northeast would care.</p>
<p>If you are really unhappy, go for it and give a damn good explanation why you want a transfer as a junoir to these schools.</p>
<p>Bearcats, in the end the decision is yours. However, if I were you, I would go for some nice industrial internships (that are business like) and then seek an MBA. I know A LOT of engineers that end up studying for their MBA, and some that are doing so to get out of engineering. Going from Engineering -> Business for undergrad is actually quite common. Perhaps get an entrepreneurial certificate to show your interest in business during your undergraduate career and then apply for MBA programs. MBA programs are not strictly for people with an undergraduate degree in business.</p>
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<p>only two years worth of credits are allowed to transfer to deliberately make transfers take at least 2 years at the new school</p>
<p>Why isn’t Stanford on the list? best weather</p>
<p>[Transfer</a> Requirements & Process : Stanford University](<a href=“Page Not Found : Stanford University”>Transfer Applicants : Stanford University)</p>
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The real problem is this will certainly raise a (character) flag and you will need to give a damn good explanation to the recruiters.</p>
<p>its funny how the way you think about colleges has not changed at all compared to when you were a high school senior. I think you need to just graduate and find a nice job. you’ll find that your school choice really doesn’t matter that much.especially at this level. you’re suffering from this “the grass is greener…” syndrome. </p>
<p>and i honestly don’t get why you want to transfer, from everything u’ve posted, seems like you’re doing very well. When i graduated from Michigan engineering, which isn’t that long ago, people with 3.5+ gpa in industrial engineering had a decent shot at MBB, and bulge brackets.</p>
<p>Bearcats,
You know that I am not CC’s biggest fan of U Michigan and I don’t think I’ve ever posted in the U Michigan forum as the people here probably hate me, but….what the heck are you doing with this transfer idea? I think you’re a little mixed up and a little frustrated and that’s leading you to think a little irrationally. </p>
<p>If it makes you feel any better, there are plenty of smart kids (including many at the transfer schools you mention) who feel similarly. College can be tough and getting an elite job in a good economy can be very difficult. Getting one in this environment is three times as hard and a lot of really impressive kids are getting shut out. So, if anything, I’d say you should be pretty proud of your ability to score the internships you have and IMO, unless something is seriously wrong with your deal at U Michigan, you should stay there. </p>
<p>My suggestion to stay is not based on the usual posing and malarkey that you read on here from U Michigan posters—I think you probably understand the student body and their true competitive position better than nearly all of them—but you should know that transferring at this stage of your academic career will raise red flags for recruiters. With your record, I think you’ve got a lot to sell, but this type of move has the potential to take you off message with a recruiter. </p>
<p>Have you really thought through how transferring helps you? In Fall 2010, because you will have worked for two summers on the Street, the prospective firm interviewing you for full-time for Summer/Fall 2011 is going to evaluate you as much or more on your two internships and what you learned and did there (and peoples’ impressions of you) as compared to your work at U Michigan. And if you are doing more stuff outside of engineering that differentiates you individually and/or connects you to Wall Street, then engineering and the U Michigan name become even more irrelevant in the recruiter’s eyes. They’re just qualifiers and, while you’re right that UM’s not near the top of the BB recruiting pyramid, it’s not Iowa State either. </p>
<p>As for the thought about not being able to go from the trading side of Wall Street to elite business schools, I think you need to investigate this more fully. I think you’re wrong, at least to a degree. Yes, the I-banking analysts get more spots than the S&T guys and the private client interns (weakest option by far). And yes, there is little doubt that business schools are far more wary today of admitting hordes of former Wall Streeters (that didn’t work out too well the last time they tried that and no doubt the quality of their classroom interaction suffered as well). But I don’t think that the door is quite as closed as you. Furthermore, it might depend on how you define elite-I personally think that there are at least 15 or more very good grad B-schools that can position you for a successful return to the Street. Do well on the GMAT, which I would guess is likely based on your SATs, and you’re likely to have several good options. </p>
<p>So, I’d say stick it out where you are. Work hard, do well in class and even more so in your summer internship and you should have several good options a year from now. U Michigan may not have the brand power that you’d prefer, but it’s not the kiss of death either. And who knows, maybe you’ll even get some fun in the future, eg, the football team might finish better than last in the Big Ten.</p>
<p>Bearcats,
I’m just wondering what about Michigan that makes you want to transfer? Weren’t you the kid from Hotchkiss who applied here early and then withdrew all other applications despite your families hesistance because you were sure UMich is your perfect school?</p>