<p>Recently, I've decided that I would like to apply to Upenn. I love the campus, the city, the people, and it is a great school. The problem I've come across is that I really want to go to Wharton. I've always wanted to study business, and it is one of the best business schools in the country. My problem is that I am only taking normal precalc and I'm only taking AP AB calc next year not BC calc. Also, I only got a 670 on the math section of the SAT. So I was wondering if it which would be a better idea. Applying to Wharton ED or applying to normal UPenn ED and majoring in economics. I do have a good amount of leadership extracurriculars: Vice president soon to be president of my school, president of the environmental club and i've started my own nonprofit educational program. So my main question is do you think my leadership extracurriculars outweigh my math focuses? also I saw that they pretty much require the SAT2 Math2 and I was wondering what the average score of the accepted applicants were.</p>
<p>Oh, I also am not taking physics and I was wondering if that would hurt my chances at all</p>
<p>You could always apply to CAS then transfer into Wharton once you’re here. </p>
<p>How easy is it to transfer/pursue a dual degree with Wharton once you’re there? Provided you have a solid gpa and ecs…</p>
<p>It’s not easy to transfer into Wharton, and there aren’t a huge amount of successful transfers each year, so that strategy wouldn’t be my first choice. Wharton >> than CAS/Econ in my opinion, but both are solid choices as a college choice.</p>
<p>I’d say definitely apply in the ED round if you’re sure that Penn is your first choice of schools. If Wharton is your first choice but CAS / Econ isn’t right behind it before other college choices, then it’s simple…use your ED round application for Wharton. If both Penn options are your first choices and you’d be happy with either, then that makes it tougher.</p>
<p>Yes, it’s tougher to get into Wharton than into CAS. Here’s the “middle 50%” of scores for incoming students at Penn, regardless of which internal school (so Wharton’s range would logically be higher than this one):</p>
<p>Testing Means for the Middle 50 Percent of Enrolled Students
(25th-75th percentiles)</p>
<p>TEST RANGE
SAT: Critical Reading 680-770, with a median of 730
SAT: Math 700-790, with a median of 750
SAT: Writing 690-790, with a median of 750
ACT Composite 31-34</p>
<p>Characteristics of Enrolled Students
INCOMING CLASS BY GENDER PERCENT OF CLASS
Female 52%
Male 48%
All information is accurate as of July 17, 2013.</p>
<p>Top area of this “middle 50%” range would be a good place to be to have a reasonable shot. Keep in mind though that if you have a hook or two (URM, first gen, recruited athlete, famous or famous parent, legacy, huge contributor, etc) that would certainly help. Also keep in mind too that low end and lower of the above chart range is (IMO only) likely taken up by a higher ratio of hooks than typical. </p>
<p>Reminder that applications are looked at holistically though, so it’s not just GPA + class rank + SAT / ACT scores.</p>
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<p>Wharton’s range on the Math section might be higher, although I don’t necessarily think that’s the case (SEAS students, and science and pre-med students in the College may actually have higher Math scores), but Wharton’s ranges on the Critical Reading and Writing sections are almost certainly NOT higher than those of Penn undergrads overall. While the acceptance rate may be a bit lower for Wharton than it is for Penn overall, there’s never been any indication that applicants accepted to Wharton are more academically qualified than Penn undergrads overall in terms of SATs, GPAs, etc. It’s just that because of Wharton’s higher admissions yield as a unique undergraduate business program among the top schools, fewer applicants need to be accepted per available Wharton space than need to be accepted per available space in the other undergraduate schools at Penn (at least for the College and SEAS). But again, there has NEVER been any indication that Wharton undergrads are more academically qualified than students in Penn’s other undergraduate schools.</p>
<p>Fairly said 45. I drew a conclusion B from chart A.</p>
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<p>You need to read the prompts for the essay for both schools to see what makes sense, can you write one easier than the other. My daughter originally had Penn on her list but she could come up with a decent essay so she never applied there. It seems like for Wharton you need to come up with good essay/ECs to support your reason for applying there.</p>
<p>Nothing ventured, nothing gained.</p>
<p>Nobody wants to be rejected but I encourage kids who feel like they really want to go to the Wharton School to go for it. I figure that business involves taking risks, winning and losing and defying odds at times so playing it safe may not be the best strategy. Of course, a case could be made for risk management too.</p>
<p>I actually know a guy who went to Univ of Miami his first 2 yrs and then transferred into Wharton seemingly easily, that is only one data point. I wouldn’t bank all hope on it at all.</p>
<p>Hedge your bets by also applying to other top undergrad biz programs (UT-Austin Business Honors, UMich, UVA, etc). Improve your SAT scores if you can.</p>