<p>im feeling 770 cr 720 m and 750 wr–thats what my spidey sense tells me</p>
<p>i’d guess more like------ 730 Math 710 CR 720 Writing</p>
<p>i agree with watisthreeve1 - I dont think it’s as high as the mid 2200s (at least i hope not)</p>
<p>After seeing a bunch of kids go through this my take is:</p>
<p><1400 is going to make it tough, unless you have a real legitimate hook (legacy is not going to make a difference here)
1400-1450 if you have done something really memorable, could work
1450-1550 V & M, gets you a good fair look (many accepted in this range)</p>
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<p>Writing is still essentially an SAT II, and treated as such</p>
<p>cligemom… i am really glad to hear that writing is still treated like an SAT II.
I am white caucasian male, and got a 780 math, 780 cr, 690 writing. The writing is just about average, but having a 2250 is certainly not as impressive as a 1560.</p>
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<p>oh boy I am feeling lucky! :D</p>
<p>don’t fixate on tests scores so much. I believe admissions is much more nuanced than one data point. For example, in cllgemom’s post, I would suggest that an applicant would get a “fair look” if he/she had a 1400 with a 3.9 gpa at a highly competitive HS. </p>
<p>(I realize that the Dartmouth’s reputation is more test score oriented than some other colleges, but I have yet to see any evidence of same. On another thread, a poster mentioned that D focused on test scores than say Brown, but statistically, their test scores are identical. Yes, Michelle Hernandez did write that the former Adcom, Karl F would give lower gpa kids a break if they had higher test scores, but that does not prove that D prefers higher test scores relative to ALL other stuff in the folder. Moreover Michelle did not indicate if that kid with the lower gpa/higher test scores was possibly hooked, i.e., development case that Karl was helping thru. Also, note that he is the FORMER Dean – we have nothing to indicate how this new admissions team will work – and Michelle’s work is based on late '90s info.)</p>
<p>Transcript, curriculum, strength of schedule, strength of HS competition, being part of an educational community, and recs are ALL part of the review. IMO, once an applicant is over 1400/2100, the adcom knows that the applicant is highly capable of doing the work – then, it’s on to the other ‘stuff.’</p>
<p>I am a parent of an ED applicant. This is my first going to college. However, I’ve done my homework, have a former UPenn admissions director as a neighbor, and have spent many hours with coaches from the Ivies and NESCAC discussing admission. </p>
<p>First thing I note is that virtually every kid who wants to be “chanced” has extraordinary tests scores, GPA, EC’s, etc. Notice you don’t see the 1400 kids, etc ever asking. I have to believe as someone here recently posted is that we are only seeing the exceptional kids stats and there certainly is some (maybe not much) statistic inflation going on.</p>
<p>Couple of tidbits I can add here. The coach of the team my D is interested in told her to write a killer essay. Told her that to get a look you need over 1300 or 30 ACT. </p>
<p>Second, I am not a statistician and do not have the time to do it anyway, but whatever numbers you use, remember you can play the statistics to infer anything you want. </p>
<p>Thirdly, my neighbor above gave me some interesting pointers. Here are a few. One, tests scores mean more than most colleges say BUT not as much as students and parents think. Two, demographics of the applicant pool play a significant role year to year. The admissions offices are making adjustments to the class right up to the last minute. Add a male here, take a female there, take out an engineering here add a southwest history male here. You get my drift. Of course there are trends, non-ethnic noreastern kids from suburbia are at a disadvantage, the talented kid from North Dakota is got a leg up. </p>
<p>Bottom line, maybe I’ll be proven wrong, but I cannot believe that if you don’t have a 1500/2300 you don’t have a shot. </p>
<p>PS- I got one to totally make you scratch your heads!!! Just remembered. Two years ago I met a young girl from my area that was a dynamic/mature young woman. I wasn’t in the college search mode but I rembember this. She had 1000 on her SAT’s, was a model UN finalist of some sort. ACCEPTED to Dartmouth. No legacy, no development, non-athlete.</p>
<p>On anecdotal evidence alone I would say that Dartmouth is relatively lenient compared to other Ivies/Ivy-class schools when it comes to unorthodox backgrounds. I and a lot of other '11s I know had pretty strange stuff on our apps - I had a zigzagging trend in academics, no community service, sparse ECs, another international I know didn’t finish his 12th year of K-12 education, and so forth.</p>
<p>But, of course, anecdotal evidence is sketchy at best. I’d say go with the statistics if there’s any doubt.</p>
<p>Let me make one thing clear, I think a hook (of any type) and good grades trumps college scores almost every day of the week. I put my “guideline” in their for the majority of kids who look fairly similar. I suspect this dean may do something very different anyway- so this is all historical at this point.</p>
<p>I know a girl from my community (So Cal) who is a junior at Dartmouth, and I can’t figure out how she got in. Maybe that was her!!</p>
<p>Keep in mind that every college is trying to fill out its community so if you play the French horn and they happen to be missing one in the band, that may be enough to push you over the edge. It isn’t all about SATs and GPA.</p>