What are a South African's Chances?**

<p>Internationals from India have their own pool of financial aid money that they intercompete for.</p>

<p>Oh really? I certainly didn’t get any, and I’m technically still an Indian citizen (though I lived the majority of my life in the UK and the US).</p>

<p>I wish we (South Africans) could be like that. So you say that the US universities can be a bit stingy (to internationals) when it comes to financial aid? And when I say this I am not implying stinginess, but in a lighter hearted sense I am asking if they are a bit tougher.</p>

<p>yeah, if you need aid and you are international, your chances are kind of low.</p>

<p>^^^you really had to seek a professor to do gpa for you? dont you get letter grades there? universities are not stingy to internationals, they DONT(any decent amount) give aid/its the last thing on a laundry list of things to do. The priority is to help american students attend. use collegeboard.c0m and look for schools with high international %s(>15%).</p>

<p>Actually, even for internationals, the admissions is separate from financial aid.</p>

<p>You could be accepted and not given any aid.</p>

<p>@vladsinger The money comes in terms of scholarships for Indian students, a maximum of 25 Indian students a year.
[Cornell</a> Chronicle: Indian students at Cornell](<a href=“http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/Oct08/IndianStudents.html]Cornell”>Tata trust endowment will enable more Indian students to study at Cornell | Cornell Chronicle)</p>

<p>We do get letter grades here. Just to make sure I was on a comparable level with the US system.</p>

<p>So the universities (specific) won’t give aid at all to international students? Or they rarely give aid? :)</p>

<p>wont usually. some do but not a lot, maybe a couple nickels lol jp</p>

<p>Haha :slight_smile: Thanks. lol</p>

<p>White South Africans are not URM. Also, I think it is widely accepted that African-American = having some “black” DNA. More specifically, if you look at the term “African-American” you’ll see that black Americans created it to showcase their African heritage within American society. Black Americans know that their ancestors hail from Africa (mainly West African to be exact), but know and knew little about the specific modern-day countries or peoples from which they are related. As such, some black Americans use the word “African” in a very broad sense to illustrate that their ancestors come from some “unknown” part of Africa. If you notice, blacks from the Caribbean who have relocated to the U.S. do not even typically refer to themselves as “African-Americans,” although they identify with being black. </p>

<p>Also, as RexRingo is South African, he couldn’t even ethically or legally put “American” when describing his ethnicity. If he became a U.S. citizen, however, he could say that he is a South African-American as he knows where in Africa his family is from. This is really important as the part of the application that says “black or African American (including Africa and the Caribbean)” --I know I misquoted-- clearly is referring to African-Americans AND black Africans and Caribbean peoples, as these people cannot be “African-American.”</p>

<p>What are the possible choices for race?.. and what would I be? Just white?</p>

<p>yeah, it describes your country of origin. </p>

<p>I think theres six-correct me if im wrong tho.</p>

<p>Caucasian
Asian
Pacific Islander(filippino/etc)
Native America(includes alaskan tribes,etc)
African American
Latino/hispanic(south america, cuba, from spain, etc)</p>

<p>Other(i guess you would sorta fit here lol although this has a minimal effect on chances)</p>

<p>Not Reported(dont fill it out)</p>

<p>i’ve always wondered. what do arab people count as? caucasian or asian?</p>

<p>caucasian and so do egyptians</p>

<p>i see</p>

<p>egyptians cant claim to be african either? haha</p>

<p>So can I be URM status? Or just because I am from SA, means I am no different to a white USA citizen?</p>

<p>ok i think this is how it works:</p>

<p>you should be considered white, just like a white USA citizen, but you technically could put yourself as african, and still not be wrong.</p>

<p>Are there ‘boxes’ that you tick? If so can you tick more than one??
Anyways so I am an African/White/Caucasian…what about URM?</p>

<p>i think there might be a box for “multiracial”?</p>

<p>Theres no box for under represented minority, thats just an unofficial term…</p>