<p>Our daughter is a junior in high school and is taking all honors classes and her GPA is 3.5 so far. She took the new SAT for the first time in January and scored a 1700. She is taking it again in May and will be taking the ACT in April. Next year she is scheduled to take AP English, and the rest honors classes including precal. When she graduates she will also have had two years of spanish and 2 years of french. She took honors chemistry this year and made a "B" in this class. She is active in cheerleading, although some people say this is not a sport, and has cheered for school the last six years but has also done all-star competitive cheerleading for three years. She will be doing volunteer work this summer and working at her first full-time job. Given this information what do you think her chances of getting into UNC-Chapel Hill are. She wants to pursue a degree in education and teach middle or high school English. We live in North Carolina.</p>
<p>Her grades don't look too good.
I would say if you get her SAT score up into at least teh 1900s she'd have a fairly good chance.</p>
<p>Thanks for your honesty and input. Actually she doesn't really want to go to UNC-Chapel Hill and she has tried to tell her dad that.....he just wants her to apply but I think I need to prepare him for the bad news. :) She would rather attend a small college not too far away from home....somewhere like Wingate, Campbell, or Gardner-Webb and I think her chances of getting into one of those are more realistic and a better fit for her. Thanks for your help.</p>
<p>I actually heard back from admissions counselor and he said if she can raise her GPA to a 4.0 she would have a good chance.....I started to tell him that she is npw leaning toward a smaller private school environment but didn't since he was nice enough to respond.</p>
<p>Her chances at UNC aren't too great given her SAT's, if it goes up to 1900-2000, then she may have a better chance. Still, she's not a senior yet and it's always worth applying.</p>
<p>If your daughter likes the smaller school environment, maybe she should try a shot at a quasi-UNC school like Wake Forest. If your daughter is considering the women's college route, there's also Salem College in Winston and Peace College in Raleigh.</p>
<p>Thanks.....she is taking the Sat one more time in May. We're really using UNC Chapel Hill as the gold standard since it is so competitive because she does prefer a smaller environment.....she just keeps hearing her dad and older brother shouting "Carolina"....."Carolina"...."Carolina"!!!! :) We live minutes away from UNCC but she wants to cheer for football and they don't have a football team. Is Wake Forest as competitive as Chapel Hill.....I know it's very expensive. I only WISH she would consider the women's college route but when I mention that I get the 'roll of the eyes look' so I gave up. She definetly would not apply to Peace College because she attended a cheerleading camp there and swore the dorms were haunted!!!! :)</p>
<p>Well, there goes two colleges... anyways.</p>
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<li>About Wake Forest: I would say it's just as competitive as UNC as a whole. It enrolls about 4,500 guys compared to however big Carolina is. Their SAT range is in the 1900-2000 range (all applicants), but NC residents may average a little lower than that, which tends to be the case at many universities. In terms of grades, GPA's don't tend to be scrutinized as much at many private universities as they are at public Ivies, like UNC. I think about 70% of students at UNC are in the top 10% of their class, and about 60% at WFU. If your daughter is a real good cheerleader and is working hard in class, etc, they can help a lot too at Wake or UNC. My mom graduated from there (as an international student), and I almost went there too, but went somewhere else instead because I got a partial scholarship at another school.<br></li>
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<p>I am from VA actually, and UVA and W&M (our UNC's) seem to like students who have 4.0's and 1300's better than 3.5's and 1400's. UNC is probably like that too from what I hear.</p>
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<li><p>Money: The FAFSA will determine how much you will end up paying moreso than what the college's price tag is. For example, if your family makes a $300,000 income, then you can expect to pay the 45K at WFU and the full 14K at UNC. If your family makes 75K, then things can change dramatically such as you pay 10K to UNC and 10K to WFU. This comes from something called the EFC (expected family contribution) I'm just giving very rough ballpark measures, so don't take this part as the Gospel. </p></li>
<li><p>If your daughter has been an all-star cheerleader for three years, then she should inquire if WFU and UNC offer scholarships in cheerleading. I would think ACC institutions would give some aid/assistance, or perhaps at the very least admissions preference to cheerleaders, who will be in athletic events, etc.</p></li>
<li><p>I was kind of like your daughter, but lower GPA and less EC's, and a higher SAT score. Here is my "What are my chances profile" and then you can see everything that happened when I applied to college. It's based on 2001-2002's cycle, but I don't think that stats have dramatically changed since I went to college.</p></li>
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<p>Here's the link:
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=312446%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=312446</a></p>
<p>wake forest is harder to get into than UNC if you are in north carolina. however, if you are not in north carolina, you pretty much need a 1350/1600 on the SAT or higher and maybe 3.8/4 to get in. I have seen some of our best students get wait listed because they are not NC residents. (I'm in charleson, sc).</p>
<p>maybe you could try NC State? (NCSU)</p>