<p>i always have a problem with the connotation of “commuter” or suitcase school. my S2 goes to one that people call a commuter school and think there isnt a “full college experience” because people go home. at that school there are 11K undergrads, 70% of freshman live on campus, not sure on the stats for the upperclassmen…but there are 5 big dorm buildings. lets say 80% of students go home on the weekend (way higher than actual but…) that leaves 2200 students on campus. That is more students than alot of LAC’s!!!. if you cant find something to do or people to do things with with 2200 students, you have a problem. You might have to make a bigger effort to see who in your dorm hangs around on weekends, you might want to be more involved in clubs etc but you arent all alone on a campus. or else we better say lac’s dont provide enough people to have a college experience either</p>
<p>A friend’s son attended University of Arkansas and it was fairly inexpensive for OOS. He enjoyed the university but coming from Calirornia he found it a bit of a shock culturally. Lots of students from Texas as they pay the same as in-state for tution.</p>
<p>Within the northeast, the State Universities of New York (SUNYs) are the cheapest to my knowledge. However, there is no guarantee they will continue to be. Many people have mentioned Binghampton. The other two that get the most attention are Stony Brook in Long Island and Genesco in the northwest. If you want to spend time in NYC, you might look for a location that is on a rail line to the city.</p>
<p>There also are many quality public universities that provide merit aid to top out of state students (such as U. Pittsburgh and U. Delaware), as well as a few that provide need aid to out of state (such as U. Virginia and U. Delaware).</p>
<p>I just looked at the Minot College website - did not know there were any colleges out there at $10000 a year. Too bad they do not have my DD major. Her university is in Pennsylvania, and is $215000 if you keep at 3.0. It was listed as the cheapest OOS schools. It is Slippery Rock University and my DD loves it there.</p>
<p>*i always have a problem with the connotation of “commuter” or suitcase school. my S2 goes to one that people call a commuter school and think there isnt a “full college experience” because people go home. at that school there are 11K undergrads, 70% of freshman live on campus, not sure on the stats for the upperclassmen…but there are 5 big dorm buildings. lets say 80% of students go home on the weekend (way higher than actual but…) that leaves 2200 students on campus. *</p>
<p>Your math is wrong.</p>
<p>70% of FROSH live on campus…not most of the OTHER years. So, you can’t say that 2200 stay on campus on weekends if 80% go home. That could only be true if the entire campus was mostly residential…which it’s not. </p>
<p>Out of 11,000 undergrads, let’s say 1700 are frosh (that’s higher than what is reported on Collegeboard - which is 1600). </p>
<p>If 70% of FROSH live on campus, then that’s about 1300 students. If 80% go home on weekends, then only about 250 frosh are on campus on weekends. 250 frosh on campus is not many…not at all. If you add in another 250 for upperclassmen, then that’s only 500. For an OOS frosh or upperclassmen, that can be a serious problem.</p>
<p>It may take some digging to figure out the proportion of undergraduates who have each of the following living situations:</p>
<p>a. Resident on or near campus, not with family, during the week and weekend.</p>
<p>b. Resident on or near campus, but leave most weekends (“suitcase”).</p>
<p>c. Live with family (“commuter”).</p>
<p>Information in the common data set may give clues, but may not give the complete picture (e.g. someone living on campus may be a “suitcase” student, while someone living off campus may be a non-“suitcase” resident student).</p>
<p>However, someone with severe cost constraints may prioritize cost and academic programs offered over the social scene as it may be affected by the above student characteristics.</p>
<p>Shepherd U, in Shepherdstown, WV. About $21,000 for tuition, room and board OOS, plus they would likely give the OP merit aid. About 1 1/2 hour from DC. Quaint, Civil War era town (it’s near Antietam/Sharpsburg) but there are a few corn fields near by.</p>
<p>I’ve done a little research and it seems the cheapest OoS schools are what I guess could be called Tier III schools.
I imagine that the education is just fine at places like Penn State Lock Haven or SUNY Geneseo or 'Tiny in the Corner of Some State U."
But if you look, they all show about 98% of the students are in-state at almost all of these schools.
Why would I send my D 400 miles and spend $15,000 to $20,000 to go to some other state’s state school?
Sorry, I just don’t see it.</p>
<p>^ Just so you know, Geneseo is not considered a Tier III but a Regional University (which means most students come from the region). I do agree with the sentiment of why pay to send your child to an OOS state school. But the question being asked is what schools are less expensive. Some schools charge less for OOS students than those students would have to pay for their IS school.</p>
<p>On two different threads you give very different stats within a very short period of time:</p>
<p>Im a junior and my GPA is going to be a little over 3.0 and my ACT is a 32, Posted 12/25/11</p>
<p>*I have a 3.4 GPA and a 29 ACT * Posted 1/22/12</p>
<p>Students usually go with their highest test score. what’s the real deal?</p>
<p>Anyway, the even more significant detail is that your family is low income, so they won’t be able to pay for much: My family brings in about 30,000 dollars a year with four kids so what kind of financial aid would i get?</p>
<p>*The Cal Polys are part of the CSU system.
*</p>
<p>Oh, I know that…I just think of them as being unique. And, I often wonder why Calif doesn’t create a 3rd one</p>
<p>*Why would I send my D 400 miles and spend $15,000 to $20,000 to go to some other state’s state school?
*</p>
<p>I agree. However, some states have such high instate rates that going OOS can cost about the same. This student probably isn’t facing that issue and money will be an issue. If his state gives aid, he probably needs to stay instate unless his REAL stats can snag a great financial situation. </p>
<p>I agree with the earlier post that the student should not be assuming that going to Mizzou would be boring.</p>
<p>I could see it if you lived in CA. Our local tuiton to amazing UC Berkeley is littles less than $14k, but with room and board and expenses the average is closer to $30-32k from what I understand unless you child is eating ramen every day and living very far away from campus with multiple roommates. In these situations OOS looks a lot more appealing. Even with lower tuition at State schools in CA you’re still looking at a minimum of $18-20k with room at board total.</p>
<p>m2ck…according to their common data…approx 70% of freshman live on campus…and approx 20% of all student (undergrads therefore approx 2200) continue to live on campus for the 4 years (it does not show in which year they move off) my S2 has lived on campus for the past 2 years and is considering moving off next year…however will be within 2 blocks of the school with many others in the area, non of whom would call themselves commuters even though they are not in a dorm. and i used the 80% as a total of all students, not 80% of just freshman…there are alot more than 500 students on campus on weekends.</p>
<p>oops forgot to add, the 5 year plan for uab includes building a new dorm as the 5 that they have are full and they need more on campus housing. their capacity right now is approx 2200 (2 dorms for freshman and 3 for upperclassmen right now)</p>
<p>from a 2010 article:
As of March 5, freshman applications for on-campus housing are up 55 percent over last year, Sands said. Returning resident applications have also increased by about half. The school has 2,150 beds available in five dormitories, and all are expected to be full.
If Blazer and Camp are both filled with freshmen next fall, that means about 1,070 first-year students – approximately 70 percent of the freshman class – will be living in dorms.</p>
<p>Your statement that Binghamton is the only SUNY worth going to is a rather large overstatement.</p>
<p>I have a friend who majored in Business at Albany who has become very successful</p>
<p>I have a friend who went to Oneonta, who then got into graduate school at The University of Wisconsin</p>
<p>I knew a guy who went to Cortland, and then got into Medical School.</p>
<p>It has always been my understanding, as a native Long Islander, that Stonybrook was a good gateway to medical school.</p>
<p>If after running the numbers, a particular SUNY is more affordable than a person’s local state university, I would say that it could indeed be worth going to New York State for.</p>
<p>I’m currently a senior in high school from Michigan interested in majoring in biology during college. After college I hope to become a dentist. Right now, I’m not too financially depressed where I can only attend cheaper colleges. I’m wondering what college has the best pre-dental program or placement into dental school. </p>
<p>So far I’ve gotten into:</p>
<p>Michigan State University
University of Kentucky (Honors Program pending)
University of Wisconsin-Madison
Marquette University (13k scholarship)
University of Oregon
University of Tennessee
Baylor University (54k scholarship)
University of Nebraska-Lincoln ($9680 scholarship)</p>
<p>I’m waiting to hear from</p>
<p>Wake Forest University
University of Michigan-Ann Arbor
University of Miami (FL)
University of Southern California
University of Washington-Seattle</p>
<p>I’m wondering where is the best place to go overall academically considering I want to do pre-dentistry. Anything help!</p>