What are decisions based on?

Excuse my ignorance here, but is the 78% BCP and 78% 4 years of FL really that significant? My sense from my own milieu is that most kids with, let’s call it, ‘above average interest in getting into a decent college’ are going to have the BCP and 4 years of FL covered. In the average Seattle-area high school, your average guidance counselor is going to tell the kid who wants to go Gonzaga or UW or a lot of other places in the PNW that they should take 4 years of FL. In fact, because 9th grade is still middle school in my area, you had a ton of kids heading over to the district HS in the morning to take their FL class before matriculating there the next year. I drove two of those carpools. The vast majority of those kids ended up (happily I should add) at schools like WWU, WSU, UW, Gonzaga, Oregon, Oregon State, Willamette, etc. etc. Solid schools but none were gunning for NESCAC or Chicago or the Ivy League, etc. etc. The latter group tended to be IB or heavily loaded AP kids, and of course all of them would take 4 yrs. of FL w/o even being told.

I’ll admit Wes’ stat on calc in HS seems pretty high. With my kids and the company they kept I guess I’ve become so used to all this that even the calc. part didn’t jump out at me immediately. But, yes, that seem high and it jibes with what we heard on the recruiting trail: “Wes wants to see math,” and it’s not a slam dunk that you’ll overcome not having that with other talents.

Edit: I just read a piece in the Argus about the class of 2026, and now realize that “BCP” means lab work in all three, not just one of them. So, ok, your point is well taken; that’s a lot too. Biology, Chem AND Physics does tend to sort a different kind of kid.

In terms of academic preparation, 87% of admitted students have completed math through calculus, 82% have done coursework in the three lab sciences (biology, chemistry, and physics), and 78% have four-year proficiency in a single foreign language.

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Is BCP that unusual? In our high school, 9th graders take Biology, and 10th graders take Chemistry.
Guidance counselors push BCP from the beginning. It is an IB school, so it doesn’t lend itself to physics very easily, but the students do hear that you need all three.

My own humanities kid will take physics senior year. She’s taking a lab science this year (junior) that is a science elective (geosystems). Her reach schools are a step down from the top tier. She doesn’t seem like “a different sort of kid” to me? Seems like a pretty standard science sequence?

Only 34.9% of 2019 HS grads (most recent available data) took all 3 BCP lab based classes. About 66% of 2019 HS grads went to college, 22% to 2 yr schools, 44% to 4 yr schools.

We know that the number of students enrolling in college have declined since 2019, BCP proportion probably did as well. NCES should release 2020 data soon, including the science table 225.45.

https://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/indicator/cpa

I’m not seeing recent FL numbers, but older data show average HS years of FL is below 3.

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I think Bio and Chem, yes, that’s probably not at all uncommon for the 4-year college bound kid.

I do, yes, think physics is a separator. Physics is hard for a lot of kids and those that take it when they don’t have to seem to be among those aiming high.

Just an impression of course. My kid had two years of it but that was her sequence for IB.

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