What are my chances (Canadian student)

<p>Hi, im a Canadian student (grade 11) wanting to apply to an ivy Leugue school (I want to get into a pre-med program) anyways I go to a regular public highschool, that doesn't offer any AP classes or anything like that. I have the highest marks in English and biology in my class, with an over all Averadge of 90%. I like to think that I have fairly strong EC's which are as follows</p>

<p>Pitcher for the top amature baseball team in Canada (ranked 3rd internationally for the age group) which requires 25+ hours of training a week</p>

<p>Linebacker for senior varsity football team</p>

<p>Assistant coach for the Jays care program</p>

<p>Pitcher outfielder for senior varsity hs baseball team</p>

<p>I have letters of recommendation from two award winning highschool teachers (best history teacher in the nation or something like that)</p>

<p>So I would like to know that if I can't get into a top teir university on sports scholarship (I have offer from University of Alabama and university of Michigan, but I would like to know what my chances are in getting in without a sports scholarship, and I come from a single parent household with an income of $40,000 a year if that makes any difference.</p>

<p>Oh and I heard something about how Canadians grades are curved upwards when applying to US universities because the marking schemes are different. </p>

<p>Thanks so much for your time, it is very much appreciated!</p>

<p>Oh and what more can I do to increase my chances</p>

<p>Make sure you take the SAT. That prevented me from applying as a freshman so I have to transfer now.–fellow canadian</p>

<p>I plan on it, I’m taking a prep course right now</p>

<p>Well, without an SAT score, we can’t really predict where you would get accepted. That pretty much indicates the Ivy competitive level and sets apart scholarships for the top public universities.</p>

<p>However, I will say that the University of Michigan is an EXCELLENT school. I would not look down on that one. It’s world-ranking and very competitive to get into. People from across the world fight over spots. Their law and med school programs are some of the best of the country (law) and world (med). So, if you have an offer to attend there, I would really consider that option. That’s fantastic! </p>

<p>Where about in Canada are you from? If you’re from Ontario or somewhere else that’s close, I’d go check out U of M’s campus if you can. I’ve heard from a Nova Scotian that Ann Arbor (U of M’s city) reminds them a lot of Halifax, and I’ve heard Halifax is beautiful. </p>

<p>Good luck!</p>

<p>Thanks for the reply! And I understand what your saying about the SAT scores, but I am currently working through a sports injury right now, so the sport scholarship may not follow through, (it all rides on if I can recover) aside from that I am from Toronto ontario.</p>

<p>Oh, I see. I’m sorry to hear about your injury. Does that automatically rescind your offers at U of M and Bama? </p>

<p>And well, as general SAT advice, I’d say to try and score 2000+, or about 32+ on the ACT if you take that as well. (I know that the state of Michigan accepts the ACT, but I’m not sure of other states) </p>

<p>Your grades are great, though, (I’m a bit familiar with the Canadian grading system, so I’ve heard how it really can be harder than our schools here) and your ECs are pretty solid. </p>

<p>If you can score within your desired schools’ ranges, I’d say you have a good shot at getting in! (Though nothing is guaranteed, of course) </p>

<p>And as for financial aid, I’m not sure how it works for international students, so I’d check your prospective schools’ websites. Also, the top schools often have funding and scholarships especially for international students, so you can hopefully have opportunities with that.</p>

<p>His grades aren’t that good. Ontario is really inflated… There’s a chance he’s not even in the top 10% of his class.</p>

<p>I am in the top 10% of my class, and I have the highest mark in 2 subjects ( class of 400, 210 in the academic/advanced stream of classes) and the over all Averadge at my school is about 77%</p>

<p>And as far as my injuries they don’t exactly know about them yet, they occurred during the off season so I didn’t see the need to tell them in feer of scaring them off, but if I don’t fully recover within the next 2 months then yes it’s possible it will be rescinded, I really really hope not though!</p>

<p>Ouch! Ontario is as inflated as American grades, maybe as much as NYC grades, where a 4.0 GPA amounts to a 95% average. If you were a Quebecer or an Albertan student, a 90% average would not be an issue to Ivies.</p>

<p>Your only chance to attend an Ivy League school is baseball… what is your problem with McMaster, Ryerson or York?</p>

<p>I just read on MCleans on campus and some other university websites and resources that 85 is equal to a 4.00 GPA, and there’s like maybe 10 kids out of 400 in my grade that actually have anything above a 95, so it’s hard to beleive that 4.00 is minimum 95, especially when only the top 2.5% of students can achieve it.c</p>

<p>Where did you read that a 95 is a 4.00 and about the Ontario grade inflation</p>

<p>I just read an article which gives an explanation on ontario’s grade inflation, in Ontario we have 3 different types or courses, "U"courses “C” and “UC” courses, U standing for university and being the hardest, many Canadian universities require “U” courses in order to be accepted to certain programs because C and UC courses are much easier and have huge grade inflation, there are students that pull high 90’s in a “C” (college) course but got a low 70 in a U level course before transferring. But and 85 from a UC or a C course still counts as a 4.00,</p>

<p>Are you aware that 40% of Ontario students graduate with an A average?</p>

<p>Why is Ontario said to have inflated grades? And what would make Alberta and Qu</p>

<p>@muaythaiguy18</p>

<p>Yes I am but that includes students in both the academic and applied course streams. A student who can pull a 4.0 in applied couldn’t do so in the academic stream</p>

<p>50% of the grade in an Alberta class is based off of a province wide standardized exam. You have to take one exam for each class and they’re like three hours long.</p>

<p>They also have BS marking for the standardized exams. I remember in twelfth grade math, I got 98% as a numerical value but they pulled it down to 95% on some distorted bell curve. Their goal is for a province-wide average of 65% on each test.</p>

<p>In general, the grading of teachers seems to be harsher as well.</p>

<p>Ahh what’s the over all class Averadge for the year?</p>

<p>My graduating class average was probably 68-70%.</p>

<p>Hmmm I agree that 90 might be a bit low without baseball…(and yes, I’m also from Toronto, so I do know the difference between U, UC, and C courses).</p>

<p>I’m not really familiar with grading in the US, so I can’t comment on whether grades are inflated, but the percentages aren’t inflated as much as the “40% of graduates get an A” statistic seems to indicate, since an “A” technically begins at 80%. However, when applying to university in the US, by no means does 80 = 4.0. I would think that 4.0 = ~92+. I’m interested in where you found the 85 = 4.0 stat, since I’ve been trying to find that information for a while now (all I’ve been able to find are conversion charts for graduate studies, which are kinda inaccurate because Canadian unis are grade-deflated). If 85 = 4.0 though, then wouldn’t Ontario be FILLED with people with 4.0s? Aren’t 4.0s supposed to be hard to get?</p>