<p>No . . . but I know that most in state students are really really stupid?</p>
<p>“FWIW, Statfinder says that in 2009 the admit rate for California residents was 23.7%. Among all students, it was 21.6%.”</p>
<p>My apologies. I was thinking of UCLA, and perhaps thinking other top UCs were similar.</p>
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<p>People outside of California and especially people outside of North America view Berkeley as being significantly better than UCLA.</p>
<p>Okay. But how would that explain a higher admit rate OOS at UCLA vs Cal?</p>
<p>I also wonder what explains why some pretty good in state students get into Cal but not UCLA. </p>
<p>And yes, for my D that was four years ago, and she is about to graduate from a great school and I will let it go…</p>
<p>Ok . . . . let me break this down for you in terms that you can hopefully understand . . . and I will feel rewarded for having demonstrated something to someone . . . </p>
<p>Due to Berkeley’s better reputation outside of California, more students will apply to it. Typically, when more students apply, they represent a wider spectrum of academic ability. Basically, OOS students are more likely to apply to UCLA because of interest in UCLA than Berkeley, to which many students apply due to the vaguely perceived reputation of the school. I am merely a student, but this is what I have observed. </p>
<p>Now as to why some pretty good in state students get into Berkeley but not UCLA? If you’re good enough you wouldn’t be rejected from either, but Berkeley or UCLA does occasionally reject students that are academically strong enough to engineer high yield rates, as they figure some strong students will apply to but have no intentions of attending the university. The academic standards for in state admission to Berkeley and UCLA are similar.</p>