What are my chances of....?

<p>Hey Everybody! I'm new to this forum. Where do we go if we want to become class of 2013? I haven't started my application process (is it long?) and I need some good advice on what to do very late in my junior year (junior summer) and my senior year.</p>

<p>I'm sure because it seems that all of you are going to USAFA, that you know all about the application process and what kind of scores you need to be accepted.</p>

<p>Thanks.</p>

<p>~butterFLY in BOOTS</p>

<p>The answers to all of your questions can be answered at Air</a> Force Academy </p>

<p>Nearly everything you could want to know can be found there. The rest can be found in the past posts on the forum.</p>

<p>bottom line- you've gotta perform very well at UPT or ENJJPT to get fighters. you've gotta be bad *** to get an f-22. 'nuff said... doesnt matter where you come from when you get to flyin, just as long as you can fly</p>

<p>BulletandPima,</p>

<p>I wasn't totally serious, haha. Guy4Christ is right, ROTC dudes do get more free time and that's what I was implying. When you get to UPT, you'll both have different stories about going through the Zoo or ROTC.</p>

<p>HNeedle nailed it on the head.</p>

<p>I heard that they are not going to be mass producing the F-22. It's too expensive, I heard something about an F-35 or something like that though.</p>

<p>F-22 is the Air superiority fighter. It is the aircraft that will eventually replace the F-15</p>

<p>The F-35 is a strike fighter. It will replace the F-16. However, the F-35 is still several years away from operational status.</p>

<p>All, it's great to dream, and dream big. Heck, if you didn't you wouldn't have gotten this far in your lives! I wholeheartedly encourage you to keep dreaming.</p>

<p>BUUUUT.....</p>

<p>You all are worrying about STEP 4 (flying the latest, greatest, bad-***est fighter in the fleet)! What you ALL need to worry about now is STEP 1 (getting into AFA, ROTC, OTS), THEN STEP 2 (graduating with good grades and competitive composite scores so you're competitive for UPT/ENJJPT), THEN STEP 3 (doing well at UPT). I've seen too many officers ruin a career because they we're too busy worrying about the next step instead of the job they currently were doing. Apply yourself, 150+%, to the job at hand, and you will get farther down the road. The services reward you for current performance, not future potential, so prove it! </p>

<p>No, worry about doing your best everyday from this point on, the rest will fall into place....</p>

<p>And don't worry; if you just apply yourself and and do your best, things have a tendency to work out in the end. Some may get the F-22 right out of UPT (rare, but the B-Course for the F-22 (the course for new pilots straight out of UPT) started last year. Maybe one or two folk a class might get one now). And you're a few years away form the F-35 (larger numbers will be bought, so more of you will get a chance in that bird). However, you may not get the latest/ greatest fighter right out of UPT. But do well in your current airframe and the chances to go to something else will usually open up. Besides, you all know you want to get a chance to turn and burn in a STRIKE EAGLE! The Biggest, baddest, butt-kicking-est bird out there, IMHO. Shoot, whoever said I was Humble! Dashingly handsome and debonaire, sure. But never humble! :)</p>

<p>i know what you're saying about applying yourself completely to the job at hand, i just like to have something to work and look forward to or at least hope for :). right now its getting awesome grades so i can qualify for soaring in the spring! (well, right NOW its getting ready for BCT, but still)</p>

<p>Its hard to be Humble, when your one of the finest.</p>

<p>haha, that is sometimes true. but i don't consider myself one of the finest!</p>

<p>hey flyboy, i'm pretty sure that was in reference to Bullet</p>

<p>and he has a point. the SRTIKE EAGLE is the BAMFest plane there is, so forget about this f-22 or f-35 non-sense... haha. (it has nothing to do with my partiality to it b/c i grew up around it)</p>

<p>or my desire to fly backseat in it. ;) Bullet, did you realize you had quite the following here?! :)</p>

<p>or because the Mighty War Eagles also carry the #15....eagle36</p>

<p>I've gotta admit it... I want the SE too. Hopefully front seat for me though. ;)</p>

<p>Oh, and on a semi-related note, two degrees found out their AFSCs today! My element leader got his Nav slot, so he's hoping to backseat in a 15E as well.</p>

<p>well all i can say is that the f-22 is certainly the best operational fighter plane there is on earth. hands down! besides, every time i see it, its so sleek! so shiny!! so awesome!!! the manuverability truly is a astounding, and it just looks stellar!!! i hope that one day i will be in control of such raw power.</p>

<p>oh, and wait wait wait!! you find out your AFSC's in your 2 degree year?!?! does that mean i only have two years to impress whoever i need to impress to get that ENJEP slot?</p>

<p>2 degrees are Juniors, 3 degrees are sophomores.</p>

<p>GroogWaugh, you would. did u ever get that mural approved?</p>

<p>Flyboy: you don't impress anyone to get ENJEP. You get it based on the work you do here. And you have about three years to work hard to get it.</p>

<p>Take it from me: your interests will very possibly change once you get here. I came in wanting to fly fighters and get an engineering degree, and as of now I'm a political science major wanting to fly C-130s. You change, the AF changes, things change. </p>

<p>Don't get wrapped up in what you want to do to the point where it drives everything. Slow down, take life where you're at, and make the most of it. If you live looking forward, you'll wind up looking backward, and 9/10ths of your life will be spent looking away from where you are.</p>

<p>and just fyi for everyone, its ENJJPT for Euro-NATO Joint Jet Pilot training.</p>

<p>there's no way you're ever going to get it if you don't even know what it is, so here's a start.</p>