UC provides no aid for internationals (or anyone not from California). NYU’s FA sucks for everyone.
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All of these are reaches, many as competitive as Ivies. Do you have an affordable safety in your country? The EU? Elsewhere?
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OP obviously wants to come to USA, so why would he consider a safety in India?
Above is just my brace guess.
Because all US colleges for CS will be a reach for OP based on his GPA and/or the fact they need significant financial aid. So, they need to make sure they are going to college, somewhere.
Good CS schools that would be highly likelies/safeties for admission such as U Dayton and Missouri S&T (there are more) will likely not come close to meeting full need for OP, plus OP will need a minimum of $5K for travel expenses and mandatory health insurance for any US college.
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Because every top US college will be a reach. Colleges at the HYPSM level have a 2% acceptance rate for international applicants. My guess is that the acceptance rate for applicants from India is even lower.
And the OP needs aid. So this is a good time to point out that when a college says it meets full need, it is their definition of full need, not the applicant’s definition; there may be a large difference between the 2.
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It’s not “sad” to attend a college or university that is not in the Ivy League.
Be careful not to overstate your accomplishments. It is a common error and can actually backfire.
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@MYOS1634 Do you have any suggestions for OP?
I said its sad that people don’t get in because they are just a tiny bit underqualified
There are a few universities in my country that im planning to apply to.
Are there any easy to get in good cs schools with low costs?
There are many extremely well qualified applicants to the schools on your list that do not get accepted. It’s not because some aren’t well qualified. It’s because these schools cannot accept even all the very well qualified applicants who apply.
So, please stop mentioning the “bit underqualified” thing because that isn’t solely true.
Add to that that many of these schools are need aware for international students and it’s easy to see why there are some rejections.
In addition, as a student in India, your application will be reviewed alongside of all those other very well qualified students from your region.
You need a sure thing for admission that will also be affordable.
How much CAN and will your family contribute annually? Maybe someone here can give you some guidance with that number.
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Ok folks…so if Boot’s family can pay say $12,000 a year, is there an affordable college in this country where he could get a CS degree.
Seems to me he needs at least a full tuition scholarship.
It’s not that you’re underqualified, it’s that you’re over-represented.
You should look on these forums to see how many students from India want to get into the Ivies, to study computer science, while asking for financial aid.
Your compatriots have the same list of schools and have not done any research on what the schools cost and whether or not they provide aid. They don’t seem to research how big the school is, and how many actual spaces there are for students. Also, in most of these Ivy schools, the seats are already “taken” by artists, athletes, legacies, donors of buildings, etc.
For some strange reason your compatriots also don’t know what “need blind” means. They assume that “need blind” means a completely free education. Need blind means that when they are looking at your application they don’t look at whether or not you “need” money to attend. The Admissions officers consider the academic qualities of the student without financial considerations. Financial aid is a completely different department and office.
Every single list, from students in India has UC Berkeley noted. Asking for aid, without understanding that non-residents won’t get a penny of aid from a public university, indicates that no research has been done. Also, majoring in CS, without understanding that a number of Americans schools are impacted in comp sci, shows that research in the school has not been considered.
If you need financial aid to attend a school in the US, then you need to Google and do the research on which schools will provide aid to international students.
Edited to add:
Also if your major is going to be CS, then you need to find a school where the CS department is not impacted. Being “impacted” means that the school only has “so many seats” available for the major.
Make sure if you’re going to be in this major, you’re prepared to return home for future jobs. The schools will educate you, but the employers/companies have made no guarantees about sponsoring you, in the US, for future jobs. US employers are mandated by the US government to employ US citizens first before even considering a non-citizen.
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Is that 100% factual?
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Edited to add from Monster:
"If you are not a citizen or a lawful permanent resident of the US, you may need to apply for a USCIS-issued Employment Authorization Document (EAD), which proves you may work in this country. You can apply for an EAD by filing Form I-765 or by mail with the USCIS Regional Service Center where you live. For more information, call 800-870-3676.
Whether you need an EAD or not, an employer should follow the Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA) of 1996, and verify that you are authorized to work in the United States. Employers should ask for you to provide one document showing both your identity and authority to work, such as a permanent resident card (also known as a “green card”), or a combination of one document showing your identity and one document showing your authorization to work in the US, such as a driver’s license and unrestricted Social Security Card.
This long list of papers includes a driver’s license or ID card with a photograph and identifying information; US military card or draft record; Social Security Card, or original or certified copy of a birth certificate. For more details, see Form I-9."
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No, unless they got fed/state/city funding.
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You must realize that there are likely four times as many applicants who are fully qualified as the number of applicants that these colleges can admit. So with 75%-90% of all super-qualified applicants not being accepted, being “just a tiny bit underqualified” is the same as “not qualified”.
It’s only “sad” because some people have decided that their future happiness is dependent on their being accepted to an Ivy. It’s only sad because somebody living half way across the world has put the name “Ivy League” on a pedestal, and thinks that attending a college with that title is a gateway to happiness, wealth, and a wonderful life.
It is only “sad” if somehow it is up to a small number of famous private colleges in the USA to support the dream of every single one of the hundreds of thousands of international students (qualified and “a tiny bit underqualified”) who aspire to be accepted to “an Ivy”, “a Top-10 college in the USA”, etc
I mean, it’s sad that Bill gates won’t give me a million dollars so I could follow my own dreams, I guess.
If you want to attend a college in the USA, you should stop focusing on “prestige”. What you should do is apply to colleges which are willing to provide merit money for applicants with great profiles.
Your first search parameter for colleges in the USA should be “colleges which provide financial and merit aid to international students”, your second should be “college which admit the highest percent of international students”. Parameters like “prestige” are not going to help you find a college in the USA which will both accept you AND provide you with enough financial or merit aid to make it affordable for you.
You need to learn more about the realities of international admissions to CS undergraduate programs in the USA, especially admissions from India.
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Thanks for sharing, but plenty of internationals get work visas (hardly a sure thing these days) and US companies are not required to employ US citizens first. On the other hand, many would and it is a lot easier if they do.
I’d probably eliminate Caltech and SCS at Carnegie Mellon, as well as Cal and NYU, as the latter offer no aid.
Better minds here could chime in on REnsselaer polytechnic institute or Worcester institute of technology
I have some higher stats kids, and since they need merit to attend, they applied to reaches and safeties only. That is your best bet in order to be able to pay for college. If you can’t full pay it doesn’t make sense to apply to all reaches who will not be giving you merit.
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Let’s not get sidetracked with work visas.
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