What are my friend's chances at the Ivies??

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<p>One of my good friends is applying to a bunch of Ivies, and a few non-ivies, and I am interested to see what his chances are. I don't know everything about him, but I think I know most of his bio</p>

<p>White Male
Public, very competitive HS(1st or 2nd best in the state). Generally sends a handful of kids to the ivies each year, as well as to some of the best LAC in the country
GPA: 3.97 UW(My school doesn't give weighted grades), Top 5% 19/390ish
He has taken a very hard courseload, which I know his counselor talked about in his rec(He's been in honors english and honors math classes throughout HS, and this year, In our 6 class schedule, he is in 5 AP classes and a block Honors Humanities course, which is very rigorous)
Ap Scores: Bio 5, Calc, U.S Gov, Euro, Art History, Comparative Gov TBA
SAT: 2090, Math 740, CR 680, Writing 670
SAT II: Math I: 700, US History 690, Bio M 650?(i dont know his exact score, but it wasn't stellar)</p>

<p>EC:
President National Honor Society
Varsity Basketball(10-11, quit this year to focus on school, played freshman ball as a freshman)
Outdoor School Counselor(10-12)
Founder of Modern Lit Club at our HS
Class Represenative for ASB
Rotary Student of the Month</p>

<p>Summer Programs:
Columbia Summer Classes, which he apparently did very well at.
A few different basketball camps</p>

<p>Now, the schools he is applying to
Yale(SCEA)
Columbia
Princeton
Brown
Dartmouth
Cornell
Penn
Sarah Lawrence College
NYU(CAS)
UChicago
Eugene Lang
McGill University</p>

<p>What do you all think his odds are?</p>

<p>His top choices are Yale, Columbia, Princeton and UChicago I think.</p>

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<p>not very good chances unfortunately...</p>

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<p>SAT II scores might be a bit low, SAT CR and W scores a bit lower than ivy averages, but overall a pretty fair shot ... friend's definitely not an auto-reject at all.</p>

<p>if your high school typically sends a few students to ivies every year, there's no reason your friend doesn't have a decent shot.</p>

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<p>Only the schools below Penn are reasonable.</p>

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<p>That's cool rightnot</p>

<p>Who knows, the ivies seem like such a crapshoot, it's hard to tell...I think that his Columbia summer program will defintely help him there.</p>

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<p>I would say a decent shot if his essays are done right. Did he get into yale SCEA???</p>

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<p>He got rejected yale SCEA(I didn't really want to say that because I wanted to see what people would say)...He was pretty dissipointed by it.</p>

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<p>Summer programs don't help. His SATs are low, he has weak ECs and is barely top 5%. I would encourage him to rethink his list. Add realistic reaches in the Emory/Vandy range. With those stats you need a good strategy. Apply to schools in regions that don't get a lot of apps from your state. If he's Asian, add schools with fewer Asians and so on.</p>

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<p>I wouldn't be so sure about saying Summer programs don't help....My summer program that I took at Carleton I think was a major factor in me getting accepted there(I would obviously like to believe that my resume/interest in the school was enough, but I know for a fact that kids who did the summer program at the school have a much higher chance of getting in)</p>

<p>Maybe it's different at other places, but at Carleton there is a significant bonus for doing their Summer program</p>

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<p>his SAT scores don't count for that much, really, they are much less important than his gpa, which looks good. so good essays + luck = in.</p>

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<p>Geez, why does everyone hate on the midwest schools? Chicago reasonable, but Cornell not? Ummm, the entering class profile for Chicago is exceptional in terms of stats (even trumps some ivies), and the accept rate is high because only very serious people tend to do that app.</p>

<p>"his SAT scores don't count for that much, really"</p>

<p>Obviously I'm no adcom, but I bet they matter a whole lot. GPA and SAT matter the most, and by far. OP has a good gpa, decent rank, but low SATs will prbly stick out and make adcoms ponder.</p>

<p>The SATs are near or below the 25% line for some of those schools (yale, etc.). Perhaps your friend should have stuck with basketball.</p>

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<p>It would have been better if he had taken the Math 2C test.</p>

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<p>SATs aren't that important???!!!! Just read around this site.</p>

<p>Every ivy I know is clear in telling summer school admits that it won't help in regular admissions. Do you know anyone who ever got rejected from a summer program (not RSI and TASP).</p>