<p>Disregarding religion, what is your view on BYU. It would deffinatly be a safety, but are the academics really as good as they're said to be?</p>
<p>Well, Marriott is tops in the nation. #7 I think? It's pretty good.</p>
<p>Pretty good alumni network also. </p>
<p>Don't know much else.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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<p>I definitely don't dig the honor code. And I can't attend it, sadly, so obviously, it's not my favorite college. </p>
<p>But in terms of academics, it might be a step up from your local state university, but I wouldn't say it's worth the extra money to attend (academically, not socially if you are Mormon). It's kind of like Baylor in that sense IMO. BYU does, however, do some interesting stuff like offer courses to high school students as part of their community outreach programs.</p>
<p>I acutuallly love the honor code. It's one of the reasons I'm attracted to the school. </p>
<p>Speaking of the HS student programs, BYU is what my school goes through for correspondense/internet courses.</p>
<p>Extra Money? You only have to pay like 4k to go if you're Mormon. 8k...? if you aren't?</p>
<p>^ Oh, nevermind. I thought it was more than that (like 10 or 12k.)</p>
<p>I am. My family isn't, so I don't get much info about it. I've finally just moved in a higher populated LDS area, but I still don't have much info on it. I pay tithing also, so I would, regardless of my family's religous beliefs, be able to attend at LDS members prices.</p>
<p>I don't see a lot of point in attending if you're not a Mormon. Unlike some modern Jesuit, Catholic, or Jewish universities, BYU holds very fast to its religious roots. Such staunch values are an attraction for many students, but pose some tricky questions relating to academic integrity, and what can and cannot be said in the name of civil or academic discourse. Dissention and anti-Church statements aren't well tolerated.</p>
<p>I mean, check out this article: Bryan</a> Young and Steven Greenstreet: Free Speech Closes Early At BYU - Politics on The Huffington Post
It's the only well-regarded university I know of that, instead of promoting the first amendment everywhere on campus, restricts it to "free speech zones". BYU is a well-regarded university, and its academics can be top-notch, but I think you have to be absolutely sure you want to go before you commit. Its impossible to separate the academics from the religious atmosphere.</p>
<p>Just my opinion, though.</p>
<p>If you don't mind the honor code and homogeneous population (89% white and 98.5% Mormon) then you might as well go to BYU. It's cheaper and and probably better than the University of Utah.</p>
<p>Ya. U of U isn't really an option for me. BYU is cutting it close. Utah is too close to "home" for my taste, although it is out of state,:), plus I want something a bit more, I don't know, harder to get into. I can't find the right phrasing at the moment at 1 AM. </p>
<p>The diversity, or lack there of, isn't really an issue with me, considering I'm LDS and white.</p>
<p>BYU = not hard to get into if you really think about it</p>
<p>If you really want something kind of difficult to get into, you might want to think of some other schools (I emphasize fit though.) Perhaps you might want to look at some women's colleges? </p>
<p>Where do you live exactly?</p>
<p>BYU strikes me as a place where the brightest and the dumbest mormons meet.</p>
<p>There are people like Romney, valedictorian of BYU, but also hyper religious mountain dwelling zealots</p>
<p>^ That's what I was thinking too, actually. A friend of a friend was planning on going there; she took Geometry three times because she failed it the first two times. She didn't end up attending though.</p>
<p>It's too restrictive of its students. The institution can be very narrow-minded in its policies (free speech, etc.). Some of its recruiting policies (from what I've seen of friends) can be a little shady--some say that BYU "bullies" Mormon students into applying and attending by binding them to their religion. I'm not sure how true this is.</p>
<p>It has a strong language program, though, but I don't agree with the reasons for this (proselytizing people who speak different languages).</p>
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<p>I've heard the sciences are strong, particularly chemistry.</p>
<p>By definition, BYU is an exclusionary school. It’s purpose is to turn out observant Mormons with a decent education. However, because it attracts mostly Mormons, there is no chance for the students to be exposed to brilliant or dumb kids from the rest of society. I know a lot of Mormon parents who say they want their kid to go there because the school’s student body has high moral standards. Think about that. There are no moral kids at Harvard or Yale? No diversity of thought, of background, of… anything. To me that should be what college is all about. Arguing with other kids about just about anything over pizza late at night in the dorm. But, if the main topic is getting an MRS. degree for or going on a mission, you end up having a school that continues the indoctrination these kids grew up with in order to perpetuate it into the next generation. They also graduate with a deeper sense of superiority and really less tolerant of dissent on everything from religion to politics.</p>