What college has strong Engineering Program?

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<p>My friend is interested in Engineering, and which college has strong Engineering program?</p>

<p>Do you guys know the website that shows the college rankings of Engineering?</p>

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<p>check out</p>

<p>Michigan/Illinois/Purdue with the publics</p>

<p>among the privates, Cornell engineering/Princeton engineering/Northwestern University/Rice University/Stanford is AMAZING/MIT and CAl Tech are probably the best</p>

<p>UPenn/Duke/Columbia they are good, but not great</p>

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<p>Nobody wants to mention Berkeley?</p>

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<p>Add Carnegie Mellon to the list of privates, as well as Cooper Union and Harvey Mudd. As far as the UC's, UCB is way up there, on par with Stanford and MIT, UCLA and UCSD are quite good as well.</p>

<p>You can find the full list in many threads on the engineering forum or at usnews.com (or just google it and you're bound to find something). Results within the last 5 years should be fine.</p>

<p>:)</p>

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<p>Best publics for engineering are</p>

<p>Berkeley
UIUC
Michigan
Purdue
UCLA</p>

<p>If your friend is out-of-state wrt all these schools then by all means he should avoid Michigan. its tuition for out-of-state is ridiculously high (as if a private school!)</p>

<p>anyway, here's the list of best "undergrad" engineering (latest USNEWS)... </p>

<ol>
<li>Massachusetts Inst. of Technology 4.9 </li>
<li>Stanford University (CA) 4.7
University of California–Berkeley * 4.7 </li>
<li>California Institute of Technology 4.5
U. of Illinois–Urbana-Champaign * 4.5 </li>
<li>Georgia Institute of Technology * 4.4
University of Michigan–Ann Arbor * 4.4 </li>
<li>Carnegie Mellon University (PA) 4.3
Cornell University (NY) 4.3
Purdue Univ.–West Lafayette (IN)* 4.3 </li>
<li>University of Texas–Austin * 4.2 </li>
<li>Princeton University (NJ) 4.1
Univ. of Wisconsin–Madison * 4.1 </li>
<li>Johns Hopkins University (MD) 3.9
Northwestern University (IL) 3.9
Texas A&M Univ.–College Station * 3.9
Virginia Tech * 3.9 </li>
<li>Pennsylvania State U.–University Park * 3.8
Rensselaer Polytechnic Inst. (NY) 3.8
Rice University (TX) 3.8
Univ. of Minnesota–Twin Cities * 3.8 </li>
<li>Duke University (NC) 3.7
Univ. of California–Los Angeles * 3.7
Univ. of California–San Diego * 3.7
Univ. of Maryland–College Park * 3.7
University of Washington * 3.7 </li>
<li>Columbia University (NY) 3.6
Ohio State University–Columbus * 3.6
University of California–Davis * 3.6
University of Pennsylvania 3.6 </li>
<li>Harvard University (MA) 3.5
North Carolina State U.–Raleigh * 3.5
University of Florida * 3.5
Univ. of Southern California 3.5
University of Virginia * 3.5 </li>
<li>Brown University (RI) 3.4
Case Western Reserve Univ. (OH) 3.4
Iowa State University * 3.4
Univ. of California–Santa Barbara * 3.4
University of Colorado–Boulder * 3.4 </li>
<li>Arizona State University * 3.3
Dartmouth College (NH) 3.3
Lehigh University (PA) 3.3
Michigan State University * 3.3
University of Notre Dame (IN) 3.3
Vanderbilt University (TN) 3.3
Washington University in St. Louis 3.3
Yale University (CT) 3.3 </li>
<li>University of Arizona * 3.2
University of California–Irvine *</li>
</ol>

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<p>Top public schools for Engineering:
UCB, Georgia Tech, UIUC, Michigan, UCLA, Purdue</p>

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<p>As far as small schools go, three that come to my mind immediately are Harvey Mudd, Cooper Union, and F.W. Olin. All are very excellent engineering schools that will provide you with a first-class education and great job/grad school prospects, from what I hear. Another excellent small engineering school which I don't know as much about is Rose-Hulman.</p>

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<p>I second the recommendation of Olin College as an incredible engineering school to look into. (I am currently a freshman there). The school is new and small, but located in an awesome city (Boston), has an unbelievable group of incredibly social athletic, super-smart engineers (average SAT is higher than MIT), and is rapidly gaining national attention. I can't convince you to apply in one paragraph, but I highly encourage you to read up about the school's curriculum at <a href="http://www.olin.edu%5B/url%5D"&gt;www.olin.edu&lt;/a>. Their app deadline is the Jan 6th.</p>

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<p>olin college
cornell engineering
cooper union (nyc)
umichigan
stanford</p>

<p>these are the ones i have some knowledge in</p>

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<p>Well since miradu is advertising his (or her) fine school, Olin, I guess I should feel no shame in advertising my own, Harvey Mudd. Mudd has excellent, top-notch professors, and awesome, wonderful, brilliant students. What is more, we have the resources of four other liberal arts colleges nearby, so you can take courses at Pomona, Claremont McKenna, Pitzer, or Scripps. Look into us at <a href="http://www.hmc.edu%5B/url%5D"&gt;www.hmc.edu&lt;/a> and seriously consider applying here. Our deadline is January 15th.</p>

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<p>Cornell's reallly strong at engineering</p>

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<p>many college has strong engineering program. Make sure program has ABET acredditation.</p>

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<p>I think ABET accreditation is overrated. Plenty of highly respected programs are unaccredited. For example, Materials Science at Berkeley and Stanford are unaccredited. Bioengineering at Berkeley and MIT are unaccredited. Yet I think it's pretty hard to argue that an MIT bioengineer is not competent simply because he doesn't have an ABET-accredited degree.</p>

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<p>However, going to a school without ABET accred. in a field where it's almost necessary will quickly make for an unpleasant career. For example, civil engineering and structural engineering, where you pretty much need a PE license to practice.</p>

<p>:)</p>

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<p>True enough, but the fact is, the vast majority of engineers will never need PE designation. Very few engineers, even civil/structural engineers, work for themselves. Most work for large companies, and as long as the company has 1 PE that can sign off on designs, that's all the company really needs. Even if it doesn't, the company can place hire an engineering consulting firm on retainer. </p>

<p>I think back to a girl I know who has a bachelor's degree in architecture (I think) and a master's and PhD in Civil Engineering, all from MIT. She's an extremely accomplished and respected structural engineer, despite the fact that she has no truly 'accredited' degree, nor could she ever become a PE. Her architecture degree is obviously unaccredited, and none of MIT's graduate degrees are accredited (as very few schools bother to accredit their engineering graduate programs).</p>

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<p>Engineering firms involved in design/ construction of various industirial and large scale facilities (bridges, power plants, chemical plants, manufacturing facilities/ plants, etc) will have many PEs on staff. A PE is needed for advancement in such a firm. There are far too many engineering drawings to have only one PE sign off on a project, much less on the numerous projects being handled in-house at the same time. Typically in say the electrical department you might have three engineers all reporting to a Project Engineer for one project. The Project Engineer must sign off on all the electrical drawings for that project, and he must be a PE. That's just one group, in one specialization, for one project. There's far too much going on for one PE to sign off on everything. That's how it works, in that type of firm. These would be Bechtel, Black & Veatch, Brown & Root, and the like. You may not have heard of them but these are big companies, for engineers at least.</p>

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<p>All ABET accred programs are not the same. It's obvious that you are not getting the same level of education from no-name state u and MIT, even though both are ABET accred.</p>

<p>ABET is like a minimum requirement. It assures you of a quality basic engineering training. It doesn't measure stuffs like quality of research, availability of advanced (grad-level) courses, interdisciplinary studies, brilliance of faculty, facilities and students ... and job placements and salaries.</p>

<p>Your basic engineering courses only account for less than half of the courses required for graduation. We should not lose sight that the other half is just as important if not more for your undergrad education. And we haven't talk about campus life and overall college experience...</p>

<p>I agree with Sakky, the vast majority of engineers will never need PE designation. I am a retired chemical and computer engineer and I have never heard of ABET accred (call me ignorant) until I read it on this board. The few colleagues I met who even bothered to go through the PE certification did so more or less to have the PE title on their name cards.</p>

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Engineering firms involved in design/ construction of various industirial and large scale facilities (bridges, power plants, chemical plants, manufacturing facilities/ plants, etc) will have many PEs on staff. A PE is needed for advancement in such a firm. There are far too many engineering drawings to have only one PE sign off on a project, much less on the numerous projects being handled in-house at the same time. Typically in say the electrical department you might have three engineers all reporting to a Project Engineer for one project. The Project Engineer must sign off on all the electrical drawings for that project, and he must be a PE. That's just one group, in one specialization, for one project. There's far too much going on for one PE to sign off on everything. That's how it works, in that type of firm. These would be Bechtel, Black & Veatch, Brown & Root, and the like. You may not have heard of them but these are big companies, for engineers at least.

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<p>Funny you should say that, because the woman I was referring to above, with the PhD in Civil Engineering from MIT, is working for a firm like the ones you mentioned and has been steadily promoted up the ranks without an accredited engineering degree (because none of MIT's engineering graduate degrees are accredited) nor with PE designation. So I don't know that you could say that you really 'need' PE in order to advance. If that's really true, well, somebody evidently forgot to tell her and her employer about that. </p>

<p>Look, I think PE status is a useful thing to have, but rarely do you ever truly need it, and the same is true of accreditation. What employers are looking for are knowledgeable engineers, not necessarily accredited engineers or engineers who carry the PE designation. Again, in the case of the woman above, I think that with a PhD in engineering from MIT, it's very hard to argue that she's not a knowledgeable engineer, despite the fact that her engineering degree isn't accredited nor is she a PE. She's probably forgotten more about engineering than the typical accredited engineer would ever know in his lifetime.</p>