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<p>What colleges use the Apostol book for freshman calculus courses that are not optional honors courses, or courses taught with the assumption that the student has seen calculus in high school?</p>
<p>Dartmouth used to recommend Calc for incoming students, but not sure if they still do.</p>
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<p>Such a student may prefer to finish BC in junior year (which they should be well capable of, being the top students in math) and then have an extra slot for a free elective and/or more schedule flexibility in senior year, if the more advanced math course at the local college were not a reasonable option.</p>
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<p>By that line of reasoning, why not teach Eng Lit over two years? Or Chem? Or Bio? Or…</p>
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<p>That is too weird (and seemingly pointless). The good math students should be able to find themselves “naturally” without parental “pushing”. With math professor parents, the student should not have any trouble filling in gaps and inadequacies that may exist in K-12 math curricula at many schools in the US.</p>
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<p>I agree! I was amazed to learn on CC that at some schools students take both Calc AB and BC over two years. I’m still not sure I believe it. At D’s high school, students took one or the other, never both that I was aware. Students who completed Calc BC in junior year either used the slot for something else in senior year, or took more calculus via dual enrollment. (In our area there’s a “distance calculus” program in which Georgia Tech lectures are electronically transmitted to high school classrooms.)</p>
<p>^ My schools like this. Is it bad? Even if I had taken BC this year I would have no math classes to take senior year 
(Well AP Stats which is an elective that I’m already taking).</p>
<p>So this is how I understand it:</p>
<p>Calc AB: Chapter 1-7 in the Calc book (comprising parts A and B)
Calc C: Chapters 8-10</p>
<p>So there are two different year long Calc BC classes:</p>
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<li>Taken as the only calculus course covering Chapters 1-10</li>
<li>Taken after Calc AB, covering Chapters 8-10?</li>
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<p>In the case of #2 above, I find it hard to believe there is enough stuff in 3 chapters to spend a whole year on. I realize that teachers can teach stuff not in the book or AP curriculum, but I suspect that would be an unusual teacher.</p>
<p>DS’s HS only offered Calc AB. When I realized BC was only 3 more chapters, I suggested he self study those chapters and take the BC exam. He did and did fine which surprised the heck out of me as he didn’t spend much time on them.</p>
<p>I did the Calc BC in one year back in the day as a senior and did not find it unduly stressful. BTW, my old calc teacher is a Facebook friend and it’s fun to seem him as a human 30 years later :D</p>
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<p>Must be a first child! At that age, even gifted children can lag in math or in verbal skills, in large part because their primary interests have been focused elsewhere. It’s not unlike kids only wanting to eat chicken nuggets until one day they decide they are tired of them and switch to the next obsession.</p>
<p>Hopefully, the tutoring strategy won’t backfire and make math no fun for the kid.</p>
<p>Well, this kid was indeed the oldest of 4. He was in all the gifted classes in elementary school and then the family moved to the next town over in middle school . He is now 21 and a student at his parent’s college, which is not considered one of the better state schools in Virginia. But he was an interesting kid , we have pretty much lost touch with the family but hope he is doing well.</p>
<p>LoremIpsum, I hate to admit that your post made me look at the major he is in. I knew he was at his dad’s school as we had run into the dad recently but was unsure of his major. He is in engineering (at a good school but not considered one of the best in Virginia) so seems to be doing fine in math and not be turned off to math. Whether he is the math genius or prodigy his dad may have been envisioning is another story. Will never know what all of that was about.But he seems to be progressing in a field that requires some math proficiency so it’s all good.</p>
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<p>Parents tend to worry about each little detail the first time around and get more relaxed with the second child and beyond once they become more confident that the little things have a way of working themselves out over time.</p>
<p>It sounds like the kid in question wasn’t hurt by the extra tutoring, although who knows? Maybe he would have become a world-class poet instead but was encouraged/pushed into getting a degree in a “real” major. One always wonders about the path not taken.</p>
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<p>That’s strange. Is UPenn the only Ivy that does that? The impression I got from CC is that their Engineering is relatively weak. Perhaps the requirement is not enforced.</p>
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<p>Is a gifted label helpful in some way in your school or is it an ego thing for the parents?</p>
<p>lake,This was years ago. This kid is 21 years old now. In elementary school, they did testing based on recommendations from teachers(from their observations). Probably similar elsewhere. Both of my kids were identified as gifted in elementary school but we did not initiate any process with that. We let things unfold . We did not do extra things like tutoring so that is what I found interesting with this family. Just exposed them to things ,bought lots of books and bought them some Legos-that was about it.
I volunteered in the class and the teacher told me (probably shouldn’t have) that his parents were bugging her to recommend him for testing.</p>