<p>requried_details, add Hamilton to the Colgate group and to the Williams group below</p>
<p>Georgetown/BC/Holy Cross/Notre Dame
Fordham/Providence/Fairfield/Stonehill
BU/Emerson/Northeastern
Michigan/Ohio St/Duke/UVA/UNC
Williams/Amherst/Middlebury/Bowdoin
Colgate/Lafayette/Bucknell/Lehigh</p>
<p>UC-Berkeley
Academics: A
Admissions: Most Competitive
Professors Grade: A
TAs: B-
Girls: B+
Guys: B+
Students also prefer: Stanford
Students also consider: UCLA
Students rarely prefer: UC-Davis, UCSD, UCSB, US-Santa Cruz</p>
<p>**Brown **
Academics: A+
Admissions: Most Competitive
Professors Grade: A
TAs: n/a
Girls: A+
Guys: B+
Students also prefer: Harvard, Princeton, Stanford, Yale
Students also consider: Amherst, MIT, Smith, Williams
Students rarely prefer: Bowdoin, Georgetown, Oberlin, Tufts</p>
<p>UCSD
Academics: B+
Admissions: Competitive
Professors Grade: B
TAs: A
Girls: A
Guys: A
Students also prefer: UC-Berkeley, UCLA
Students also consider: Cal Polytechnic State, Stanford, UC-Davis
Students rarely prefer: San Diego State</p>
<p>Virginia
Academics: A-
Admissions: More Competitive
Professors Grade: A
TAs: B
Students also prefer: William & Mary, Duke
Students also consider: Cornell, Georgetown, Harvard, Notre Dame, Penn State, Princeton, UNC, VA Tech, Yale
Students rarely prefer: n/a</p>
<p>Tulane
Academics: B+
Admissions: Competitive
Professors Grade: A-
TAs: B
Students also prefer: Duke, Emory, Vanderbilt
Students also consider: Florida State, Northwestern, Texas, Washington U
Students rarely prefer: Rollins, Skidmore, Southern Methodist, U of Richmond</p>
<p>U of Miami
Academics: B
Admissions: Competitive
Professors Grade: B+
TAs: B
Students also prefer: Duke
Students also consider: BU, NYU, USC, Vanderbilt
Students rarely prefer: Florida State</p>
<p>Indiana University
Academics: B
Admissions: Least Competitive
Professors Grade: B
TAs: B-
Students also prefer: UIUC, Michigan, Notre Dame
Students also consider: Miami University, Purdue, Wisconsin
Students rarely prefer: n/a</p>
<p>Washington and Lee/Suwanee/URichmond
Northwestern/Georgetown/Wustl
MIT/Caltech
Amherst/Swarthmore/Brown/Williams
Colby/Bowdoin
Berkeley/Michigan/UNC/UVA</p>
<p>Edited my list:</p>
<p>MIT/ Caltech
Harvard / Yale / Princeton / Stanford / Duke
Cornell / Washington University in St. Louis / Dartmouth / Columbia
Chicago / Northwestern / Brown
Johns Hopkins / Rice
UC Berkeley / UCLA</p>
<p>Hey RML, what is the link of the site at which you found the grading of aspects of schools? Thanks.</p>
<p>The Midwest institutions probably compete for the same kids…RML if you could find the applicant pool for these three, that would be great. </p>
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<p>WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY IN ST. LOUIS</p>
<p>Academic Reputation: “Best of the Best”
Cost: “Very Expensive”
Drug Scene: “Only on Weekends”
Getting In: “It Takes a Miracle!” (Acceptance rate = 20%)</p>
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<p>UCHICAGO
Academic Reputation: “Best of the Best”
Cost: “Expensive”
Drug Scene: “Straight Edge”
Getting In: “Very Competitive” (Acceptance rate= 40%)</p>
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<p>NORTHWESTERN</p>
<p>Academic Reputation: “Excellent”
Cost: “Very Expensive”
Drug Scene: “Only on Weekends”
Getting In: “Very Competitive” (Acceptance Rate = 33%)</p>
<p>Harvard/Yale/Princeton/Stanford/MIT/Caltech
Columbia/NYU/Barnard
UPenn/ Cornell /Dartmouth/ Duke/ Washington University in St. Louis/ Brown
Williams/Amherst/Middlebury/Bowdoin/Wellesley/Smith/Mt.Holyoke
Chicago/Northwestern
Notre Dame/Holy Cross/Tufts/Boston U./Colgate
Penn/JHU/UVA/W&L
UCLA/USC
Caltech/Berkeley/Rice</p>
<p>I’ve learned through Facebook (an always reliable source) that Allegheny, Knox, Beloit, Lawrence U, Wooster, and Kalamazoo have overlapping applicant pools. People who apply to one usually apply to the others, bringing the schools into competition. This is probably Loren Pope’s fault.</p>
<p>Edward Fiske in his college guide “The Fiske Guide To Colleges” provides a list of “overlap” schools for each college in his book. I recommend that you purchase it.</p>
<p>rml: those mostly look right to me, except Harvard…i know many who select stanford over harvard. so the n/a is n/a:)</p>
<p>Whitman / Colorado College / Macalaster</p>
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<p>This list totally counters your assertion that students who end up going to UM only take the SATs/ACTs once (hence, lower average scores than the top private universities).</p>
<p>Aside from MSU, UM students who considered those other schools (and probably applied to some of them) know very well that they need top scores to have a chance.</p>
<p>k&s, not all Michigan students aim for those schools, those are just the schools Michigan students consider most frequently. And I never said that all Michigan students only take the SAT once or that all Michigan students prepare less for the SAT than students at their private peers. All I said is that a significantly smaller percentage of Michigan students do. I clearly pointed out, in such posts, that this factor alone would not dramatically alter Michigan’s SAT range or average, but it would it is worthy of note.</p>
<p>On a lower scale</p>
<p>UMCP/Virginia Tech/Penn State/WVU</p>
<p>the typical “maryland student looking for an easy local party school with awesome sports” list</p>
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<p>You have stated something along those lines in the past; and lets’ face it, it’s not just for UM, but the other top publics as well, UCB and UVA.</p>
<p>But that’s totally understandable due to the objective of these universities to educate students from their respective states, first and foremost (not to mention their much larger student bodies).</p>
<p>Carleton, Bryn Mawr (women), Grinnell, Oberlin, Reed, Swarthmore, UChicago</p>
<p>Notre Dame, Holy Cross, Georgetown, Boston College</p>