Being a legacy can be a nice dump that can help well qualified candidates get in, so I am wondering what constitutes someone receiving legacy status. Undergrad for a direct mother or father is simple enough, but after that it gets a bit more gray. Does it count for grad school, medical residence, etc? And lastly are you a legacy if a aunt, uncle, or grandparent went there for undergrad (Although I assume that it does, because they ask this exact question on their CommonApp application)?
And also, is legacy status really counted towards you in admissions if you apply regular? Or do they only care if you apply ED?
My personal situation, - My father did his medical residence at Dartmouth and my uncle (on the same side) went there for undergrad. And sadly, I am not applying ED anywhere because I am incisiveness. So the familial ties to Dartmouth help in admission or not matter?
Thanks
Neither would count as legacy, IMO. Dartmouth admissions defines legacy as children of alumni, but they don’t seem to make the distinction, as Harvard does, that the parent be an undergraduate alum.
https://dartmouthalumnimagazine.com/articles/“nuanced-decisions”
Each university is free to define “legacy” as it chooses. As I mentioned, Harvard limits it to children of undergraduate alums. Penn includes grandchildren, but says legacy really only helps ED.
There have been a number of prior threads on this, and the answer has always been that a legacy is the child of someone with an undergraduate degree from the college – not Tuck, not the med school, not grandparent, etc. This one included a link to an official policy (http://talk.qa.collegeconfidential.com/dartmouth-college/1916857-no-place-to-list-parents-as-dartmouth-alumns-on-dartmouth-specific-questions-of-common-app.html), but it’s a dead link. I’m not sure anyone except the admissions office knows the official definition – assuming there is one.
In the Harvard Asian discrimination documents, it came out that the admissions office coded for legacy and double legacy separately, implying that there is some additional scrutiny within the legacy category.
@AboutTheSame The quote from the “official policy” says:
contrast with the Harvard “official policy”
https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2011/5/11/admissions-fitzsimmons-legacy-legacies/
Personally, I find the interpretation that legacy only applies to the child of someone with an undergraduate degree from Dartmouth is tenuous at best.
Regardless, it all falls into the category of “it is what it is.” There is no check box on the application that says “Check here if you are legacy.” You list your your parents’ education and the college will use that info as it sees fit.
Personally, I will be quite happy if legacy preferences were abolished - after my kids get into college.
Where is that top quote from @skieurope? I scoured the Admissions pages and could not find it, although I;m sure I had seen it previously. And, from my point of view, legacies cannot be abolished until D’s kids have chosen to go elsewhere. :))
@AboutTheSame It was this post in the thread you quoted:
http://talk.qa.collegeconfidential.com/discussion/comment/19914000/#Comment_19914000
Although, as you pointed out, the accompanying link is dead.