<p>Does Harvard have undergrad business courses??? An admissions rep told me that they only have economics, but another rep told me that you can take courses under Harvard through MIT or any other close school. Yet another rep told me that i would have to take undergrad courses through the Harvard Business School. Which is true???</p>
<p>Harvard does not have undergrad business courses–as the rep said they only have economics. You can enroll in MIT courses (accounting is a favorite with business types), but they will count as electives, I believe. Have never heard of undergrads allowed to take HBS courses for credit. You might want to call HBS directly and ask.</p>
<p>If you are determined to do undergrad business are you applying to UPenn-Wharton? They’re the tops.</p>
<p>They have a few financial groups that are taught by Harvard Buisness school students and are quite competitive to get into. The groups are like a finance major for Harvard.</p>
<p>Millerl1te - Are you talking about financial clubs like HFAC and such? I think they’re all run by undergrads… no real HBS connection.</p>
<p>fauve’s advice is spot on - the only addition I’d make is that there are a few classes in the Economics department that are business related (Corporate Finance, Capital Markets). They’re taught from an academic, not a practical perspective… but they’d certainly be useful once you enter the business world.</p>
<p>Last but not least, you’ll certainly study less business at Harvard than you would at UPenn-Wharton, but your opportunities in the business world after graduation will be just about the same. It just depends on what you want to spend your time studying.</p>
<p>Naw Veritas is taught by HBS students. It’s pretty cool. I know HFAC is taught by undergrad kids who have a really good idea of whats going on, so it’s pretty cool too.</p>
<p>You could apply to MIT, Wharton, and STERN too. {Unless you’re already at Harvard}</p>
<p>lol no i’m in 11th grade and i was just wondering what colleges i should look into for business. and i mean courses, not clubs. what would i be studying in harvard as compared to upenn-wharton?</p>
<p>Harvard: You can study anything but business.
UPenn-Wharton: You can only study business.</p>
<p>If you really want to go to do summer internship in finance:</p>
<p>Wharton >> Harvard Econ/math, for a quick leg up in summer analyst position in quant and I-banking in the current environment. Unless you have family connections or have $$$$$$$$$$$$$$, or are very good in networking, choose Wharton over Harvard.</p>
<p>If you want to be a theroretical economist, Harvards >> Wharton. </p>
<p>However, After getting undergrad degree within six months of on the jb training in modeling and quant understanding you will have no problem in getting leg up and getting a job either from Wharton or Harvard. Harvard = Wharton (equal footing).</p>
<p>A recent Harvard kid was interviewing at big famous Wall Street company. Kid has 3.95 GPA (government major I think - I am not sure). She did not know anything in modeling relating to finance. Based on qualitative interviewed, she got to the super day of the company. During the interview, company people asked the kid to explain few modeling questions. The kid has no clue about financial modeling. The interviewer asked the kid to get the hell out of the job interview. The kid is rejected in most places ( I am not sure where the kid got the job in the end).</p>
<p>Moral of the story, theoretical economics very good for being an academic. However, it is not good for real world of finance just to know the theory.</p>
<p>^ It’s not impossible that the foregoing story is more or less true. But it is highly unlikely.</p>
<p>– “Big famous Wall Street companies” hire many Harvard graduates, with or without finance-specific courses. Wharton graduates, too, of course. And maybe even a couple more of the latter than the former (from a larger pool of applicants). But, trust me, no one is shutting Harvard out. There are tons of Harvard grads in finance jobs, and they didn’t sneak in through the back door.</p>
<p>– If specific finance modelling knowledge was part of the job requirement, it would have been in the announcement, and the student in question would have been screened out immediately. If it wasn’t part of the job requirement, no candidate would have been rejected solely for not having it.</p>
<p>– But big Wall Street companies are unlikely to make specific finance modelling knowledge a requirement for an entry-level, undergraduate-degree-only job. That’s because no big firm relies on the external training of its entry-level employees – they all have their own training programs that are specific to their needs, and they are all very proud of their programs. It’s only small shops that try to hire someone who can hit the ground running, and they are more likely to look to someone who has been with a big company (and trained by it) for a few years than to newly minted BAs. But sometimes they will hire BAs.</p>
<p>– No one learns enough economics OR finance OR political science in college to function as a professional in the applicable field, and no one expects that anyone will. Even PhD programs often take people who had different undergraduate majors. What matters most is capacity and willingness to learn, and to contribute as a team member. A Harvard government major could have all those qualities in spades, and get hired anywhere. Or not. But it wouldn’t have anything to do with his major or what courses Harvard offers.</p>
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<p>This is another detail that doesn’t ring true about the story. Unless you were flagrantly misbehaving in some way, it’s unlikely you would get summarily kicked out of an employment interview. If you were clearly unqualified they might politely cut the interview process substantially shorter than had been planned, but no respectable firm would tell a job candidate to “get the hell out” no matter how poorly they were doing.</p>
<p>JHS
Never claimed harvard is bad, read post #9</p>
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<p>“It’s not impossible that the foregoing story is more or less true. But it is highly unlikely.”</p>
<p>Sorry no comment as it is bad policy to bring out someone for personal trivial gain.</p>
<p>coureur:</p>
<p>Okay on hindsight thinking I probabl expressed a wrong way as lack of not very well develpoed writng skills. Maybe the interviewer just politely asked that interveiw is over as I was not there in the interview. The great garpewine added on to these words and that was not reality. I used the wrong verbal expression that “get the hell out of here” without thinking. I admit it, I am wrong on that part that the way that I wrote it based on heresay.</p>
<p>Me cupla - for not thinking and for my writing style that needs to be improved. And being lazy also in my writing style and not proof reading.</p>
<p>If you are in 11th grade, it is not likely you will get into Wharton and Harvard. Stern is a plausible engineering school that is also great. By all means, look into HP, but if you don’t mind the city, consider The Stern School of NYU as well, which itself, is a tier 1, top business program – in NYC.</p>
<p>I mean business*</p>
<p>Collegeinusa, I don’t believe your story for a minute. JHS is spot-on:</p>
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<p>That’s the real world.</p>
<p>Pizaagril:</p>
<p>Do you yourself or your kid currently attend Harvard University? </p>
<p>I am not going to give you additional detail about the story I cited. It is unethical as i am not interested to destroy somone’s name out in open to support myself. If you do not belive it, it is your ohoice. Sorry I am not going to divulge names. :(. </p>
<p>The reason I wrote the story was to point out that in real world people who do very well in education does not always end up being very sucessfull money maker in life. That is why lot of people dropped out of harvard and other schools to start what they wanted to do with thier life.</p>
<p>Also my perception is that many Harvard Undergrad College Professor do not support and want their brainy students to go and end up working in Wall street. </p>
<p>Is this impression other harvard students get, or their experience is opposite what the vibes I am getting.</p>
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<p>"lot of people’? You mean Mark Zuckerberg and Bill Gates? They are the exceptions, not the rule. Not a lot of people drop out of Harvard. It has a graduation rate of 98% - among the very highest of all colleges. For every Bill Gates who dropped out there are many dozens of Steve Ballmers who didn’t.</p>