What do you take after AP Calc B/C?

<p>If he's running out of math classes at the local school, he may well be running out of other curriculum as well. You may actually want to look around for a school (PREP?) that can offer him a challenge in all areas.</p>

<p>You'd be surprised at how many Preps/BS have incoming Seniors who have just run out of things to challenge them at the local public. (and they want to boost thier stats)</p>

<p>My junior son will be finished with Calc BC also. They have a course at the university, but math teacher also suggested the EPGY program. Some people here have negative impression of this. I know it is self paced, pass fail. But want to know more. It is about 700 a class.</p>

<p>The problem with the university is the scheduling.</p>

<p>From a college admissions perspective, would there be any distinction? They both show an interest in math. I assume the colleges know about this EPGY program. I suppose being pass fail could be questioned, but if they learn it and like it who cares?</p>

<p>Any thoughts?</p>

<p>Any other good online math courses? Some are listed above but I don't know what they stand for.</p>

<p>Son is also going to take AP Statistics and AP Physics senior year, so would consider the flexibility of an on-line course to be useful.</p>

<p>Multivariate Calculus
Differential Equation
Linear Algebra</p>

<p>Son did the above in high school as well. Did his AP Calc AB/BC sophomore/first part of junior year, and then the other 3 junior/senior year. School had hired a new math teacher who volunteered to teach him the last 3. Son did retake 1 or 2 (don't remember) as a college freshman since he decided to take the math-track for econ major which is all math-based/focused economics. Has helped tremendously. He also wanted to take classes from some of the great profs where he is at. Same with physics and history. Couldn't pass up some of those professors and that fancy plasma lab!!</p>

<p>Kat</p>

<p>Sons HS only went up to Calc AB. He took BC through a community college only because they came to the High School, otherwise he may not have wanted to take the time to take a night class at the CC.
I guess I don't get the push to take all these college courses while still in high school. S is now a math major at Cal and doing great even with the limited HS courses he took. He would have wanted to take the classes in college anyway.</p>

<p>In our case, it was the AP Calculus BC teacher who suggested our S take the next levels up college math courses rather than AP Stats (and even then, he'd still need something Sr year, which we knew all along) because AP Stats isn't as rigorous math wise and he figured our S could comfortably, with more work, handle more. My H is a math professor so he could guage this assessment.</p>

<p>So in the end, it was to offer S more of a challenge and, as a side bonus, we're hoping it makes his college applications look a little more shiny that he's taking on the rigor. Thankfully yes, he still has a life outside it.</p>

<p>It depends on the school. Our school offers multivariable calculus on campus, while some schools do not. If your school does not offer MV calculus, it may be an option for your son to take it at a nearby college campus. AP Statistics is another class that could follow calculus BC. Although totally unrelated, it seems to be a popular option for kids at our school who have completed calc BC, but are not interested in pursuing a higher level of math.</p>

<p>I think the colleges do know about the EPGY program. If you want to google it, it is through Stanford. My son took a computer programming course on line. It depends on how much interaction your son needs in a learning environment as to whether this is a good choice.</p>

<p>Our local HS doesn't offer Precalculus or Calculus, so my freshman son is taking each of them this year at our local university. After this spring (in which he has Calculus I), he'll have six semesters remaining in his high school curriculum. What six courses would you think that should be, and in what order?</p>

<p>gadad:</p>

<p>I assume that your son is on a block schedule? He could take Calculus II and AP-Physics. Calculus is either a prerequisite or a co-requisite for AP-Physics. If AP physics is not offered at his high school, he could take the equivalent course at a college. Depending on what he wants to do, he could take AP-Chemistry. Although AP-Chem is usually considered easier than AP-Physics, my son found that having both Physics and Calculus made AP-Chemistry easier to learn. He took Introductory Biology at the Extension School and did not like the course as much because it involved a lot of memorization (not his cup of tea!) but he did well on the AP test anyway.
I think Statistics is a very good course to take although it is not as mathematically rigorous as it requires only Algebra II. But it is extremely useful in a variety of disciplines.</p>

<p>My son is taking Linear Algebra through the CTY program. He took Calc BC through them last year, and will take Multivariable Calc next year. Linear Algebra and MV Calc are very self-directed without any lessons. It's also quite expensive. </p>

<p>We are looking for AP Physics C for next year online. Anyone here heard of a program for this?</p>

<p>EPGY offers AP-Physics C.</p>

<p>Marite, do you know of anyone who has taken Physics C though EPGY or any reviews of it? thanks!</p>

<p>Thanks for the feedback. It sounds like most posters had a positive experience with online courses. My son took a music composition class on line this year and it was a diaster. He did not turn his assignments in on time. My son is very bright but a bit of a slacker and I think a self paced on line course may not be the best choice for him. I think he also likes have the interaction with the teacher and other students.</p>

<p>RE: Taking AP Stats prior to Calc. Sophmore year he took PreCalc and was asked to take AP Stats - the teacher thought he would boost the average for the AP exam. So in reality I think it wasn't necessarily what was best for my son but that it would make the teacher look better. He did get a 5 on the exam. He found the class fun. I do think that a lot of the students that didn't want to take Calc ended up in AP Stat - so maybe not the strongest math students in the school - consequently not a high number who would get 5's on a AP exam....</p>

<p>Thanks for the suggestions. I'd love to hear feedback on taking the online courses.</p>

<p>I've heard good things about EPGY, but I don't know anyone specific who has taken AP_Physics through EPGY in my area. Years ago, when I checked it out, one of the tutors had been a coach for the International Physics Olympiad team. Maybe some other posters have students who used EPGY.</p>

<p>Johns Hopkins CTY (center for talented youth) Distance Learning offers multivariant calc, linear algebra and diff eq. in online versions. Might be more manageable than a local college since the commute time is zero, and there is some flex in how fast you do things.</p>

<p>At my D's high school, kids who have finished AP Calc BC take Multivariable Calculus and Linear Algebra (offered at the high school). My D is not on that track - there's only about 8 kids out of a class of 450 who are. Does your state have a virtual high school or other on-line option?</p>

<p>My son took MV Calc at the local cc this fall and then signed up for EPGY Physics 51 (mechanics) b/c the calc class conflicted with most of the honors/AP classes that he was planning to take. It was not an unqualified success, but more because of the situation than because of EPGY. If my s had been assigned a class period during school in which to do physics it might have worked better, but instead he had to do it during evenings after rehearsal when he was tired, and on weekends, when in addition to other homework he also had to work on college apps. He also found it difficult to keep on top of a class where he had no firm deadlines, no face-to-face instruction, and no classmates to do problem sets with. All that being said, he has conscientiously (sometimes to a fault) worked to understand each concept and be able to do all the problems. When he finally completes the class (over winter break, I hope), I'm sure that he will earn an A and will have a good physics foundation. Also, he's not taking a math class this spring, so doing the physics problems helps keep the calculus fresh in his mind. The lectures seemed to be thorough and (mostly) clear and easy to follow.</p>

<p>Thanks Marite - yes we've exhausted the minimal math curriculum at the HS, so anything he does in Math now is at the local college. I'll check into AP Physics.</p>

<p>Odessa girl took AP Statistics after AB/BC AP Calc.</p>

<p>Yeah, I took AP Stats concurrently with Alg II my sophomore year.
But I would say that he would take multi-variable next year, or if your school has some math electives. They might not necessarily be all that challenging, but they could be interesting. Ask the counselor, surely your son isn’t the first to take AP Calc BC junior year in his high school.</p>