What do you think about grinders?

<p>You know about whom I'm talking. The kids with 4.2+ GPA's and sub-1700 SAT scores.</p>

<p>Is under the impression that GPA is correlated to intelligence. </p>

<p>Wants to go to the high ranked in-state private school for literally no other reason than he/she thinks that it's prestigious. </p>

<p>Loves grade inflation like normal people love puppies. </p>

<p>Would literally die if he/she had to take a legit AP like physics or chem or calc.</p>

<p>Will brag about how he/she is taking 5 AP's this year (Latin, English, Statistics, U.S. History, Psychology: aka the easy, generic ones)</p>

<p>Wants to be a doctor or something equally unlikely (if you can't crack 1670 on the SAT, you're probably not going far in med school, dawg)</p>

<p>Attentively takes HARDCORE notes EVERY DAY, no matter how easy, basic, or old the material is. I'm talking a review of arithmetic sequences gets a full 1.5 pages of notes.</p>

<p>Is condescending to people going to lower-ranked colleges.</p>

<p>Is hilariously trollable by saying that the SAT correlates with intelligence more than the ACT and a heck of a lot more than GPA</p>

<p>Will beg the teacher to accept his/her answer to a semi-ambiguous quiz question if it's not correct.. Female Grinders will come to tears, and most male Grinders will come close, and will get red in the face and indignant when talking about it afterwards. </p>

<p>"The SAT is just a test of tricks, it's meaningless." ALL OF MY RAGE AT THIS.</p>

<p>Thinks that he/she can force himself/herself to become successful and smart.</p>

<p>Does not actually enjoy or appreciate what he/she learns. All that matters is the GPA.</p>

<p>I hate these people.</p>

<p>When I saw the title, I thought I’d be reading a thread about raucous parties. It immediately became less exciting.</p>

<p>Or a sandwich…</p>

<p>^^
Implying that anyone on CC HSL has actually been to something called a ‘party’.</p>

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<p>I initially thought the same thing.</p>

<p>Anyways… no one gets a 4.2 with a sub 1700, at least at my school. There’s kid who has a 4.2 but got a 2000ish at my school. I always knew he was a tryhard, which is nothing to be ashamed of, but other people at my school with 4.2s are getting 2200+.</p>

<p>Yeah, I was ready to contribute to a debate about “grinders” at parties. My second guess was the meatball grinder that they always serve at school. I could go into a good rant about that…tastes so bad.</p>

<p>I thought the same thing as studious and dfree…</p>

<p>Anyway, no one with a 4.2 at my school has a sub-2100. </p>

<p>I don’t hate these kids. I give them credit for working hard.</p>

<p>I’ve been reading these forums for a very long time but I just had to make an account and post due to my extreme hatred of these “intelligent students.”</p>

<p>At my school, one can take DE classes both at school and very nearby, and while these courses may offer college credit and promise of future college success, most of them are ridiculously stupid subjects getting kids 6.0’s. (4 regular, 5 honors, 6 AP for A’s) Classes include a bunch of introductory language classes (with the best one being sign language), and various introductory classes to subjects such as philosophy and environmental science. </p>

<p>It really ****es me off when kids take 1 or 2 ap classes in school and take like 5 DE’s during the summer and end up with a 5.2 gpa just to barely break a 1700 on the sat. When I’m the one with a 2100+ taking the most rigorous schedule possible during school (with A’s) and I still have a lower gpa. I understand that gpa isn’t the final deciding factor, but these students’ entire attitude just really ticks me off. </p>

<p>I also wanted to respond to what these people say about the sat tricking you. Yes, it probably isn’t the best test to test your knowledge and it won’t perfectly determine how successful a human being you will become, but come test day, people want to see you perform and not how you whine about how tricky the test may be. In the real world there isn’t always time to study, and while you won’t see many of these subjects layer on in life, it’s just an early evaluation of whether you can step it up or not.</p>

<p>There’re two things here: grinds - people who take difficult classes and work extremely hard to get good grades, and those who take the easy way out. I admire grinds because that kind of dedication and that work ethic is really rather commendable. On the other hand, people at my school can take two AP classes and have a GPA that rivals that of the kids who take 7+ AP/IB classes. That’s annoying. In the short run though, I think it’ll be obvious through both their courseload and their standardized tests.</p>

<p>Agh those people do sort of bother me, at least when they act stuck up</p>

<p>i don’t hate them … but i can’t help feeling some negative emotions towards them. by the way, i thought that was a fine description rusty!</p>

<p>to add to the stereotype: these people also tend to be very particular about * following the rules *. </p>

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<p>how long? :).</p>

<p>Yeah, I don’t understand why you refer to them as grinders. When I think of “grinders” I just think of people who generally work hard and there’s nothing wrong with that.</p>

<p>But yes, I can relate with having classmates who have very high GPAs as a result of taking easy classes. My school hasn’t ever weighted grades, so it annoys me a bit. I believe my school will start weighting next year though.</p>

<p>Oh, the scandal! Someone got a higher GPA than me, and they even got a lower SAT/ACT score than me.</p>

<p>Quick, tell the principal! Ring up the dean of students! Call the police! Uh…get me the supreme court or…something…we can do that, right?</p>

<p>^ I don’t care if someone has a higher GPA than I. But these people and their attitude (I’m better than you [with ‘you’ being some kid who doesn’t put his life into school and isn’t terribly smart, either]) SUCK. They genuinely believe that they’re better than others because of their inflated GPA and mediocre intelligence.</p>

<p>I’m secure enough in my intelligence and SAT scores that these people don’t actually worry me.</p>

<p>I’m not really aware of people like that at my school (as Rusty describes). There are “grinders” who study hard and get good grades, but there aren’t any (to my knowledge) who try to game the system and then laugh at/look down on others who don’t. It’s really too bad that some of you have to deal with people like that. I can’t see myself respecting them either.</p>

<p>Hahaha, I thought you meant the party too :)</p>

<p>I only know one “grinder.” She epitomizes the whole “takes 1.5 pages of notes for the most basic things.” I think she does it more for attention and sympathy though than actually caring that much about academics.</p>

<p>I also thought that this was about partying…</p>

<p>I think that it is almost unreasonable how people break their back aiming for goals that are out of their reach. If they take 6 AP classes and can pull all A’s, then that’s cool for them. However, I don’t like the people who take a ton of hard classes to try and pull ahead and then end up failing. Recognize your limits…</p>

<p>I am probably the most intelligent student at my school. Thus, I couldn’t care less about GPA and SAT. Other than obtaining the necessary results to attend the university I want to go to next fall, they have little intrinsic value to me and are not necessarily an indicator of my studiousness, or lack thereof.</p>

<p>^ They’re not indicators of your intelligence, necessarily, but they are certainly indicators of your studiousness.</p>

<p>of course you would know, “stud.” There’s almost no grinders at my school except that one girl.</p>