<p>Ditto baby</p>
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<p>I agree with davy. Take the test or not take the test, but stop asking for the approval of the gallery. What do you want - us to analyze your writing here and say how "smart" or "stupid" it is?
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<p>Oh shut up. If you don't approve, don't read the thread, and don't bother posting.</p>
<p>What's "disgusting" is your offensive nature.</p>
<p>And yes, actually I do want people to estimate my score based off my SAT score. (What the heck do I want YOUR approval for? Go back to Princeton and b*tch.)</p>
<p>155-160. Just based on your percentile from the SAT.</p>
<p>I know a lot of people that made 1600's that could only make 165-169 max on their LSAT's, to give you an idea of how difficult the LSAT is. Of course, there are a lot that made 1600's that also made 170+'s, but there's no really direct correlation.</p>
<p>FINALLY!</p>
<p>Thanks for the estimate liberalcensors. That's pretty crappy to be honest, but yes, I was thinking around 160 because I read a thread where a guy made 1390 on his SAT and scored 161.</p>
<p>But if I do study for a year at say 1 hour a day weekdays, and 2 hours on weekends per day, how many points do you think my score would increase?</p>
<p>No. Your score will never improve. Your score will be exactly 160 based on the infallible calculation you seem to think somebody is capable of making for you.</p>
<p>Hardy har har....</p>
<p>Some people have mentioned "maximum point increases no matter how much one studies" in other threads. I was just wondering if this is truth.</p>
<p>IMO the things that make you good at the LSTAT aren't related to studying for it directly.</p>
<p>I believe my high LSAT score was from reading a lot (I mean a LOT) and having smart friends which I could debate things with objectively (which I am lucky to have). In general I see how easy it is for people to fall into groupthink with friends that only tell them what they want to hear or make excuses when they make bad grades or get things wrong. THis kind of pervasive lack of objectivity will really screw up your LSAT score IMHO. I've seen a lot of people that think they are hot s*** with 4.0's and end up doing on the LSAT because a lot of their success has to do with playing the gpa game rather than being actually intelligent. T</p>
<p>he LSAT also has a lot of very wordy passages that require you to really be very well-read to be able to understand meaning in the proper context of the passage. I do not believe these are things you learn directly from studying the LSAT; you have to read a lot on your own from high-quality sources.</p>
<p>I read the Atlantic, the Economist, and the Wall Street Journal for periodicals. I also read a lot of old English authors because I enjoy them. etc. etc. I think all these "enriching" activities really help you naturally be good at the LSAT.</p>
<p>Studying directly for the test by reading study guides and practicing old tests generally just taught me not to make dumb mistakes and narrowed the range of my scores, but it did not make me any better at the test.</p>
<p>You'll probably start out making a large range, like 145-165, and practice will narrow the range of scores you make and push it slightly up to your maximum potential, 160-168 for example. I doubt studying a lot will drastically improve your school.</p>
<p>Liberal...fair enough.</p>
<p>I knew a kid in high school who originally scored 1410 on the SAt, studied for 3 months hardcore and then got a 1580. Stuff like that does not happen on the LSAT?</p>
<p>I have about a year and a half until I need to take the exam, if not 2 years, which means if I start reading those periodicals diurnally, it should help, correct?
That's another thing...I was better in mathematics on the SAT and math seemed easier, but I'm studying humanities at university, so that should help boost my verbal skills..at least I'm hoping it will. </p>
<p>I just need any tips, besides studying for the LSAT directly, that can help boost my score. Thanks for offering REAL advice.</p>
<p>P.S. I'd be satiated with a score of 168, although my goal is 170+.</p>
<p>what a waste of a thread -- really. (I know, I know...what a waste of a post as well :D)</p>
<p>Wildflower...go away. You've already posted here complaining, so ***** off. Have a nice day. :)</p>
<p>Liberal...I see you're a fellow Berkeley student, and that you also loathe it. I semi-understand...the people around me seem unmotivated.</p>
<p>Well Liberal, what you said about the LSAT is the same as a few other people I know that have taken it. They tell me I shouldn't worry about it right now. I am a college freshman and I am counting on my tough coursload for the next 3 years to help me increase the knowledge I will need to score 170+.</p>
<p>Well just read stuff that's difficult but not archaic. I think a key thing you can improve is your reading speed and the speed at which your comprehend difficult or new sentence structure (which apparently was mentioned earlier on). Its very, very important to be fast. Hence, read a lot my friend, and turn off the boob tube.</p>
<p>Liberal...would you perchance want to tutor me in person for a small sum maybe once a week or occasionally? (Unless you are graduating this year...)</p>
<p>You've disabled private messaging, but if you could possibly tutor me some time this semester, I'd appreciate it.</p>
<p>Also, I'm female, so I won't rape you and throw you in the bushes. Don't worry. :)</p>
<p>I am actually quite busy as I'm taking 20 units to see if I can fix my gpa from earlier semesters so no go :P I am told I am a horrible tutor anyways because my reasoning is different from a normal person so you aren't missing out on much.</p>
<p>Just do what I suggested and you will do fine. Its quite difficult to find time to do all the things you need to do in college, so you might consider taking the LSAT after college is over and using your free time to read up and relax.</p>
<p>"Wildflower...go away. You've already posted here complaining, so ***** off. Have a nice day." </p>
<p>hey, it's a free country and a free forum; but that doesn't change the fact that this is a waste of a thread ;). Have a nice day:D</p>
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<p>hey, it's a free country and a free forum; but that doesn't change the fact that this is a waste of a thread . Have a nice day
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<p>Didn't you want to transfer to Berkeley? Hopefully not, after speaking to me. Have a nice evening. :)</p>
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I am actually quite busy as I'm taking 20 units to see if I can fix my gpa from earlier semesters so no go :P I am told I am a horrible tutor anyways because my reasoning is different from a normal person so you aren't missing out on much.</p>
<p>Just do what I suggested and you will do fine. Its quite difficult to find time to do all the things you need to do in college, so you might consider taking the LSAT after college is over and using your free time to read up and relax.
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<p>Thanks liberal. </p>
<p>Advice:
1) Read periodicals or anything containing more complicated verbiage.I'll commence this tomorrow.
2) Study directly for the LSAT.</p>
<p>Is there anything else to add?</p>
<p>(Btw, I read your LSAT score, and I think you're getting into at least Columbia or Duke despite your low GPA. Your score is much higher than Yale and Harvard's average LSAT scores.)</p>
<p>"Didn't you want to transfer to Berkeley? Hopefully not, after speaking to me. Have a nice evening."</p>
<p>Lol. Berkeley has never interested me; Stanford, on the other hand, does captivate me. ;)</p>
<p>Nevertheless, I fail to see how speaking to somebody anonymously on a public forum would affect my school preferences.</p>