<p>can anynone explain to me what their definition of a liberal college is?</p>
<p>do you mean liberal arts college?</p>
<p>no... just like when someone says.. Wisconsin is a very liberal school.. something like that...</p>
<p>oh...it means most students and faculty have liberal viewpoints.</p>
<p>When a school is described as "very liberal," it also usually means the students are particularly politically active, not just that they have left views. Berkeley and Madison are good examples of "very liberal schools." Keep in mind that most universities, professors and students, are left leaning to a certain extent.</p>
<p>They have loose views pertaining to moral and ethical issues.</p>
<p>You will be persecuted if you have "conservative" views, and you'll be in deep trouble if you're racist, sexist, homophobic, not environmentally conscious, etc.</p>
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They have loose views pertaining to moral and ethical issues.</p>
<p>You will be persecuted if you have "conservative" views, and you'll be in deep trouble if you're racist, sexist, homophobic, not environmentally conscious, etc.
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<p>If by loose, you mean that I care about a baby even after it is born, so that it is raised in a loving environment and given the opportunity to a strong education, believe woman deserve equal pay as men, believe minorities deserve equal rights, believe the environment is worth protecting, and believe that I should share my food with the hungry, and my clothes with the cold and homeless, then yes, I suppose I have loose morals. </p>
<p>Personally, I always just called them Biblical, but they, that's just me.</p>
<p>haha nice redknight.</p>
<p>The suggestion that any college student would be "persecuted" for his or her political beliefs in this era is nearly risible, short of someone who is a virulent and vocal fascist or Maoist. These days "conservative" students are somewhat more out of the mainstream on most college campuses than "liberal" students, but not by much. You'll find vigorous College Republican groups even at supposedly liberal bastions. The University of Wisconsin, for all its reputation, has had a daily conservative student newspaper for at least 20 years. For better or worse this isn't the 60s -- or, thank goodness, the 20s, when some of the same schools that now are considered "liberal" had popular campus organizations like the Ku Klux Klan and the White Spades (yep, the UW again). And I'd venture to say that a liberal student would be no more likely to be ostracized -- much less "persecuted" -- at Hampden-Sydney or Hillsdale or TAMU than a conservative student would at Berkeley or Oberlin or Madison. This is much more a go-along, get-along generation, whose political passions don't seem to burn nearly as intensely as they did for their parents and grandparents.</p>
<p>It depends on what exactly you mean by conservative though. </p>
<p>A conservative who is all for Laissez-faire economics and limited government spending will not be met at all with hostility. </p>
<p>However, if a conservative were to say something along the lines of "all gays are going to hell for their sinful, dirty lifestyle" then that person will be met with a lot of hostility for a viewpoint that is not only arrogant in its assumption that gays without a doubt go to hell, but incredibly judgemental and prejudiced against a harmless group of people. </p>
<p>It's all a matter of being hurtful or not.</p>
<p>You're right; such a person is not a "conservative" in my parlance. Such a person is simply a jack***. Just as a person who told a military veteran that he was a "baby killer" would be.</p>
<p>Hippo, you really shouldn't talk about anothers religion if you don't know about it. If a person says anyone is going to Hell, it is a belief, aka it means if you don't believe it you shouldn't care. I wouldn't care if a Muslim person told me I was going to hell, bc obviously I don't believe that. The only reason to be hostile is if you are insecure in your beliefs. And according to The Bible aka the person's belief gays would go to Hell, just like liars, and murders, or blasphemers, or ppl who lust after others possesions. If I told you liars go to Hell, will you then be hostile to me. Really get over it, you are not going to change ppl's views and if your views are strong you should not care what others think.
Moreover, before you respond we the expected crud about ppl hating gay ppl I doubt ANY person who is truly Christian would hate anybody. JESUS HIMSELF said that if a person hates another then they will not inherit the kingdom. JESUS would never be mean to a liar, but HE would say that lying is a sin and you will go to Hell for that. The same is true of homosexuality, if you ever read what THE BIBLE states, it constantly speaks of the fact that ppl are not evil nor or they bad, but rather they do bad things such as lie and for that they are punished.
For homosexuality, a person who is attracted to men would not go to Hell, bc it is just a temptation from Satan. Those are really good ppl and noone should ever treat them bad. But if a person has homosexual sex, they will be punished for that action.
And further don't reply with some you can not treat a person fairly or be nice or friends with them if you disapprove of their actions trash, bc we all know ppl who lie yet we may still be nice to them and be friends with them. In fact I know a person at work who I talk to regularly (we are not friends bc well he is alot older than I am and I only work during the summer) and he is gay, and would never be mean to him.
Gay ppl are people, there are good gay ppl just like there are bad gay ppl. There is no reason to treat someone bad bc they disagree with something, that goes beyond judgement to actually attacking another's belief and that is hateful AND hurtful.</p>
<p>Hippo in order to qualify the aforementioned statement i should apologize if it was insulting, I really do not want to insult anyone, it is just that I hate the perception that some non-Christians have that bc homosexuality is a sin then Christians must not like gay ppl. Bc I would be friends with a gay person in an instant and as far as i am concerned what ppl do in private is their business. So i really do apologize if I was offensive, that is not me and certainly not Christianity :(</p>
<p>Hippo, you really shouldn't talk about anothers religion if you don't know about it.</p>
<p>Please, I was raised Greek Orthodox, I know about Christianity. </p>
<p>And as I have stated countless other times, the view that homosexuality is a sin in Christianity is merely one interpretation and not necessarily the only interpretation of the religion. </p>
<p>CHRISTIANGAYS.COM:</a> Education Take the time to read some of these articles, you may not agree with them but that doesn't make these beliefs about Christianity any less valid than yours. So really, think before you speak. </p>
<p>And for the record, my point was not that "Christians" shouldn't have the right to express that they personally don't believe homosexuality is ok, but rather it was to show that certain behaviors, like calling someone else a dirty heathen, or w/e is not only incredibly disrespectful but also absurd.</p>
<p>Edit: I just think it's funny how "Christians" criticize homosexuals all the time yet they rarely give a rats ass if someone gets a divorce and remarries or not.
A lot of these anti-gay Christians remind me oh so much of the pharisees that Jesus spoke out against a lot. Oh well.</p>
<p>FIRE</a> - Foundation for Individual Rights in Education</p>
<p>You gotta be kidding if you think colleges don't persecute you for going against their dogma.</p>
<p>Actually I would care alot about divorce (even though I am not Catholic), it is probably one of the main things that cause so many problems in our generation i.e. priomiscuity, neglient parenting, and abortions. I do not believe in divorce (unless a person beats the other). There are certainly more important issues that unfortuantely do not get spoken about as much, but are still very apparent. In the overall scope of things homosexuality is not a big a problem as drugs, or heterosexual lust, or such. But the difference is that homosexuality unlike drugs or lust is experienced by a smaller group that is also a very apparent sin, so it gets more focus. And besides drug dealers (unless you count rappers) do not throw parades and speak about how great it is to do drugs, or have pride in it. So more ppl are going to be incited by a overt display of immorality as opposed to a more private matter.</p>
<p>Greek Orthodox would be a belief within the greater belief of Christianity, remember I said these are beliefs (although I believe them 100% true), so different groups are going to have different interpetations. Look at ****e and Sunni Islam and even buddhism has two different groups although I do not know their names.</p>
<p>Oh and about your point you would be 100% right about not calling ppl heathens, that is very clear in THE BIBLE that we are not to judge or cast slur on one another bc that would be sin.</p>
<p>Why did S-h-i-t-e get taken out?</p>
<p>Because it has shit in it. Try Shi'ite.</p>
<p>^Yeah, shi'ite has two i's. </p>
<p>Greek Orthodox would be a belief within the greater belief of Christianity, remember I said these are beliefs (although I believe them 100% true), so different groups are going to have different interpetations. Look at **e and Sunni Islam and even buddhism has two different groups although I do not know their names.</p>
<p>YES!!!! THIS IS EXACTLY my point. Different sects have different interpretations! The branch of Christianity that you belong to may believe homosexuality is a sin and interprets the bible that way, but this doesn't meant that this is the only interpretation. </p>
<p>As hard as it may be for you to believe, all of the versus that you can point to and say "look, the bible says homosexuality is a no-no" can be looked at under a different light. Is verse A really against consensual homosexual relationships or is it merely against the act of anal sex (or anal sex as a form of rape) or is it against homosexuality only as a form of temple prostitution?
These are all questions that various Christian groups are debating as we speak. There is no clear cut answer in the bible as to whether or not consensual, adult, monogomous homosexual relationships are sinful or not. Some, like you interpret it to be, others, such as the creators of the website I posted the link to earlier argue against that point of view. </p>
<p>Christianity is a religion with many different beliefs, practices, and even bibles! (Mormons for example). So it would be wrong for you to speak for Christianity as a whole by saying that homosexuality without a doubt is a sin, when that is merely one view point.</p>
<p>EDIT: The two Buddhist groups you are thinking of are Theravada Buddhism and Mahayana Buddhism.</p>
<p>Yes, different ppl try to interpet The Bible differently and i obviously believe those interpetations are wrong. But I would be correct in stating that homosexuality is a sin bc it is in accordance to belief. This really gets into the nuances of truth, bc it builds upon relativism, where two ppl can both be correct bc they are functioning under different perspectives of the world and under their own perspective they are correct.
But ultimately with all things pertaining to faith, we can never have a debate about it, bc for debate there needs to be a common ground consensus which arguements can be crafted upon. Our ground is different so we can not debate, but only discuss and ultimately both of us would be right (but I moreso ;))!</p>