<p>I have been hearing a lot about the admission processes these days. My s is still dwelling on his EA decision. Our school is a prestigious Public school in northern NJ. A bunch of kids were in my house last weekend. Talking about Stanford! It's students' perception that Stanford doesnt think that all NJers who are applying to Stanford aren't serious for CA colleges. this would be more so this year because H and P stopped EA/ED. STanford thinks that NJ/NY kids applying EA are just trying to hold a seat until they get admission somewhere else in Eastcoast. Now that I am looking into it and correlating the numbers, I see that very very few got in Stanford in past few years. I see also 50% of thier students from CA. Dont want to pre-conclude without more data.</p>
<p>Does anyone have any insight that's worth sharing here????</p>
<p>Not that I have much expertise in this area (Stanford), but I do know that the only students we know from NJ that have been admitted to Stanford as of late have been from either private school (one in N NJ comes to mind) and from a Newsweek ranked public school....If you are from one of those, you have a shot; Otherwise, I'm not sure that Stanford really cares about geographic diversity enough to explore other strong publics in NJ, unless legacy driven...IMO</p>
<p>Weenie is right that NJ kids aren't going to bring geographical diversity because they're already found everywhere in the country in fairly big numbers.</p>
<p>I'm curious what the problem is. A few h.s. kids are throwing guesses around in your living room. I doubt they have any inside track on accurate admissions knowledge. If Stanford is your S's strong first choice, go ahead and apply. Isn't that what EA is designed for? If he's not leaning heavily in any direction, EA isn't for him anyway, regardless of Stanford's view of Jersey kids.</p>
<p>Yes, I wonder if compared to USC anyone has the numbers for NJ admits......Not that USC is on the same level as Stanford, but as a large private, as a comparison......(Pomona, ClairmontMcKenna as well for LAC's)......</p>
<p>I don't know about NJ, but in my MA district, very very few students apply to Stanford or go if admitted there (S was and did not go). It does seem that there is a preference for staying in the Northeast.</p>
<p>Yes, we too had someone that was admitted to USC from our NJ competitive public.....Stanford, however, not for awhile..Does anyone know what % of admits from NJ? Stanford v. USC?</p>
<p>I don't know of any school that published applicants, admits and yield by state. Stanford used to be over half Calif kids, but I think its down to ~40% now. Geographic diversity is important to all private colleges, but NJ kids are in private colleges everywhere so an extra NJ app will not bring such diversity. </p>
<p>A former Stanford admissions counselor once wrote that Stanford lost the cross admit battle with Harvard approximately 400 times then each year, and with Yale and P'ton about 200 times each. Likely, these are east coast kids, who like most kids, prefer a college closer to home - but that is just a guess.</p>
<p>The thread title asks about Stanford, which has a noticeably different admission profile from USC. I wouldn't assume that a student who can get into USC can also get into Stanford--not from my state, either. </p>
<p>After edit: The SAT state report for New Jersey </p>
<p>Absolutely, but it is quite interesting that it is a known fact around these parts (NJ) that it is almost impossible to get into Stanford, even with those of HYP caliber (and acceptances).....</p>
<p>In our public school in the NYC suburbs which regularly sends kids to all the Ivy's each year only two kids got into Stanford in the last four years - one was both African-American and politically connected, the other was a recruited athlete and a legacy. Stat-wise the kids who were accepted had decent grades and scores, but there were at least a dozen with higher ones who were rejected.</p>
<p>Stanford is a crap shoot for even "top" students. It's not surprising to me that most are not accepted -- and I seriously doubt (hand waving here) that Stanford is especially prejudiced against applicants from New Jersey. Also, since college kids, for the most part, don't want to go that far from home for school, and there are 30 million Californians, it doesn't surprise me that elite west coast schools have lots of Californians. I know that if my son had been accepted to both an Ivy/MIT and Stanford or Caltech he wouldn't even have had to think about his response -- he'd be off to California in an instant.</p>
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<p>Interestingly, there must be something to Stanford's westcoast bias, at least anectodally. In our competitive public HS last year, we had as many Stanford acceptances (6) as Ivy League acceptances with no cross-admits.</p>
<p>I have a strong suspicion that most private elite colleges </p>
<p>1) favor, other things being equal, students from their own states and especially their own towns, </p>
<p>and </p>
<p>2) favor, other things being equal, students from underrepresented states (which are usually the states farthest away with the least focus on application to private elite colleges). </p>
<p>By this hypothesis, New Jersey residents are favored by Princeton, and possibly not favored by any other elite college. Massachusetts residents (and especially Boston and Cambridge residents) are favored by Harvard. Wyoming and South Dakota residents are favored by EVERY private elite college, because they are underrepresented in the application pools. </p>
<p>But I'd like to return to my first question. What are the New Jersey students doing who are aspiring to Stanford? Would I have heard of any of their achievements over here in Minnesota?</p>
<p>token, Dont understand your question.
these kids are doing good in school in life, but not going for corporate patents or things like that.</p>
<p>mostly 4.0+ GPAs, high SAT I/SATII, Olympiads, research and papers, lot of comm service, co-captain on the varsity teams etc...
But I see that most of us have a feel that Stanford will think twice before offering the seat to a NJ/NY'ers.</p>