<p>Its official... Tufts 2012!</p>
<p>Congrats, Milkmagn.</p>
<p>Sorry to lose ya, but if you decide Tufts isn't for you, I'm sure Georgetown will welcome your transfer application.</p>
<p>I hate to say this (because I really love Georgetown and the education and experience I've had here, would never leave, etc.), but the security here is ********, and as of this weekend seems to be getting worse. Three assaults over the weekend, two of which were sexual? One was in a dorm for crying out loud. I think that's unacceptable. Hopefully DeGoia and Oslen do something quickly about this, because it really is absurd.</p>
<p>Were the assaults performed by students or outsiders?</p>
<p>They're not sure, actually. Could've been by students, but I think most people think it was by outsiders. Here's the link to one of the stories: Student</a> Reports Sexual Assault at Gunpoint | The Hoya.</p>
<p>That said, this really is a problem that should be easily fixable. Hopefully DeGoia takes action quickly, because there is definitely potential for a lawsuit.</p>
<p>why is georgetown a better place than northwestern? it's ranked 9 spaces behind NU on USN&WR and seems to have inferior facilities, yet somehow its acceptance rate is much lower than that of NU. What makes georgetown so great? I need to know before May 1</p>
<p>look at any legitimate study of cross admits and you will see that georgetown easily wins and is preferred over northwestern...georgetown is ranked so poorly in usnews because of poor alumni giving a small endowment and bias against catholic universities in peer ratings...georgetown is far more selective than northwestern not only because its acceptance rate is lower but because it does not accept the common application which deters a lot of "throw-in" applications that schools like northwestern, washu, and the ivies welcome to lower their acceptance rates...<a href="http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/papers/1287.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/papers/1287.pdf</a> is the most respected study...this NYT chart is less reputable but still clear as georgetown gets 62% of northwestern cross admits The</a> New York Times > Week in Review > Image > Collegiate Matchups: Predicting Student Choices</p>
<p>^you've been misinformed:
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georgetown is far more selective than northwestern
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stats according to collegeboard.com:
georgtown: 650 - 750 CR, 650 - 740 M, 29 - 33 ACT
northwestern: 670 - 750 CR, 680 - 770 M, 30 - 34 ACT
so one has lower admit rate but also lower stats. to me, they are comparable. by the way, georgetown is using data for "admitted" students on their website for marketing purposes while collegeboard.com is using data for "enrolled" students.</p>
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georgetown is ranked so poorly in usnews because of....bias against catholic universities in peer ratings
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i doubt the relatively low peer ratings has much to do with bias against catholic schools. if many of their faculty are AAAS/NAS members or Sloan fellows..etc, then i'd probably agree with you. Alfred</a> P. Sloan Foundation</li>
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<p>first off higher SAT scores do not necessarily equal higher selectivity...and im not arguing that georgetown is a better research institution than northwestern because its not...ur missing the point...at the undergraduate level georgetown is more selective and more coveted because of its excellent preprofessional preparation and its ties and connections on capitol hill and wall street...the previous poster was asking why more people choose georgetown over northwestern despite a lower usnews ranking and im trying to explain why</p>
<p>Edmund</a> A. Walsh School of Foreign Service - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</p>
<p>The level of accomplishment of Georgetown's alumni, and the exposure it offers students to the world's power elite helps to explain why many people choose to attend it.</p>
<p>Admit rate and test scores are both factors for selectivity. Like I said, GT has lower admit rate but also lower test scores, so it's no more or less selective (and "coveted"). You insist it's more selective by ignoring its lower test scores.</p>
<p>Scores aren't everything</p>
<p>plus 63% of cross admits b/w NU and GT choose GT</p>
<p>Georgetown also has a few very unique programs. There is no other SFS, very few schools offer a international health studies program as developed as Georgetown's, and FLL, the language department, is incredible, especially in Arabic and Chinese. (the other programs are fantastic too, I just happen to know the most about mine :) ). That combined with a very strong professional focus is very appealing to some and not so appealing to others. The Jesuit tradition is part of that. Georgetown is proud of its roots, but they aren't for everyone. As far as ranking, the endowment is a factor, but when so many graduates go into public service over the private sector that is understandable. There is a good chance I might be hanging out in a burmese village before I get a real job. Georgetown is aware I won't be sending them a big check any time soon.
Georgetown is different then many of its peer schools, I mean where else do get to go trick o' treating at the embassies.</p>
<p>hec, would you like to make the same case for nd. I believe more ND students go into service than GT students. I think at ND 10% go into service, 5% go into the military. But yet, gasp, the alumni giving rate is ranked 4th, and, gasp, the endowment, at 2005, was ranked 18th w/ $3.6 billion.</p>
<p>Georgetown's endowment is a mere $.746 billion, which is a joke compared to its competitors esp. ND. Probably why it loses cross-admits to ND, not mention ND football is 10000 times > GT football.</p>
<p>When you don't have alumni which include three current Heads of State, one past US President, a current Supreme Court Justice, five current US Senators, and two current US governors I would look for affirmation in how much money my college has in the bank, too. </p>
<p>Does Notre Dame put bundles of money under glass cases in all the cafeterias for you guys to look at since it makes you so happy? Do you get a ND money clip when you enroll in your freshman classes? What kind of value system do you people apparently have there anyway?</p>
<p>"ND football is 10000 times > GT football."</p>
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<li><p>Notre Dame football, although it does have a great history, was by no means a powerhouse last year and probably wont be this year either.</p></li>
<li><p>Georgetown isn't a football school. ND is. Gtown would smash on the court or the lax field.</p></li>
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<p>I wish Rudy went to Georgetown.</p>
<p>I wish Georgetown wasn't so hard to get into so I wouldn't have to go to ND.</p>
<p>Milkmagn and corruptbargain,</p>
<p>It's obvious none of you read the paper. You are not alone on this however as it seems like 99% of the people who posted that page from NYT before never read the original paper either! Apparently the NYT person misinterpreted the data and people just blindly followed! By the way, since when what high school seniors think is authoritative? They haven't even gone to colleges and you are using their opinion to show which school is better or worse? I hope when you are in college, you don't use the opinion of high schoolers to prove your point. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>At least someone that went to Princeton took the time to read the source and refuted it: <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-california-berkeley/497862-ucb-vs-northwestern-vs-cornell-vs-upenn-vs-brown-3.html?highlight=reveal+ranking%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-california-berkeley/497862-ucb-vs-northwestern-vs-cornell-vs-upenn-vs-brown-3.html?highlight=reveal+ranking</a></p>