<p>Just a curiosity. Some seem to do really well but it appears to be a GPA busting class... What did you get (and did you do better or worse in PChem)?</p>
<p>Never took it, never will. :)</p>
<p>Ochem is far easier than Pchem. Just make sure you don't purely memorize the material...that'll leave you in deep trouble.</p>
<p>Haven't taken PChem (and won't... I'm not a chem major), but I did excellent in Orgo.</p>
<p>Premed have to take all that and physics. Gen ed for alot of the colleges require either bio or pchem.</p>
<p>I took AP Chem in high school, but it was basically the local CC course but taught by our regular chem teacher (she had taught it at the CC before), and we didn't have to take the AP test. 8 Credits straight from the CC for the 2 semesters of courses and labs and they transferred right to my current school.</p>
<p>I got an A+ in both because I'm a genius (not really).</p>
<p>lethargy - I think you're confusing pchem with inorganic...considering pchem generally has calc 2 (and very often calc 3) as a prerequisite</p>
<p>I got a B in OChem I and a C in Ochem II...</p>
<p>phchem is generally phyics 2 and calc 3.. but i've seen 1 school where it is calc 2 (and not mine :P)</p>
<p>PChem is most definitely not a "gen ed" anywhere.</p>
<p>edit: I think BRM got to it first</p>
<p>I took Pchem and there was more calc then a normal first year calc course.
Ochem is all about understanding and not memorization which I think is where most students make the mistake.</p>
<p>By the way did you mean General chemistry instead of Physical chemistry.</p>
<p>No. I meant PChem. Daughter is a ChemE major and is due to take PChem this next semester. Struggled with Orgo. Just curious how others did.</p>
<p>I got a B in ochem I and an A in ochem II. Somehow I got an A in biophysical chemistry. It was a lot harder than ochem for me.</p>
<p>Isn't Pchem one of the hardest classes an undergrad can take? That's what I heard and the general concensus was.</p>
<p>What I heard is that it is a lot more math/physics than orgo. I don't know. Maybe someone can chime in...</p>
<p>Well since you meant PChem then Orgo. I did alot better in Orgo then Pchem.
However I believe it was because I had a better prof for orgo, he was someone I could easily talk to and ask all the dumb questions (although most of my class didn't feel that way as the average was very low).
PChem was only chem majors so it was a MUCH smaller group as chem isn't popular at my school...not at all. The prof tended to mumble alot so when you have hard concepts + prof who is REALLY NERVOUS and mumbles+ 8 am class= not the best mark.</p>
<p>However I would recommend that your D approach the course with an open mind. Do ALL the questions that the prof gives and just enjoy it. The topics are so cool.</p>
<p>Oh yea...</p>
<p>Another thing I wanted to say was that Yes the average is Orgo is usually low but then you have to remeber who takes the course.
At my school there are about 150 people doing chemistry majors. All who were in PChem with me. However my Orgo class was 275!!! So where did the other 125 come from?
Biology majors. All of my bio friends took orgo because of the MCAT. Most of them hate chem but want to do well on the MCAT. Also most of them sucked at chem and shouldn't have gone on. So well Orgo had a D average pCHEM had a B.</p>
<p>Isn't Pchem one of the hardest classes an undergrad can take? That's what I heard and the general concensus was.</p>
<p>Not really. Both chemistry and physics majors take PChem. The funny thing is that for chem majors, it's known as a nightmare; to physics majors, it's a joke class, since their upper level physics courses are just so hard in comparison.</p>
<p>I've never heard a physics major call pchem a joke, russell- no need to toot your own horn.</p>
<p>Anyways, I did fine in Ochem..I basically just used memorization since i hate chemistry, and it worked out alright.</p>
<p>I'm not a physics major, casespartan. I've actually taken a lot more chemistry than physics in University. I'm not one to gloat about academics on a forum, honestly. But I do have physics major (and chemistry major) friends and it's just the impression that I get from them. Maybe -joke- is a bit severe, but it isn't close to being one of the most difficult undergraduate classes, like the one guy asked, at least not from what I've heard.</p>