<p>One last comment, gulobb_u what are you currently doing (major in college or field of work)?????</p>
<p>since we don't have any idea what's going on, what do YOU do? How old are you? Have you graduated college? started college?</p>
<p>From some of golubb's earliest posts, I've been able to figure out that he's a high school student and is applying to pre-med programs, and that the majority of his claims are based upon the experiences of his family members, who are half electrical/computer engineers whose jobs have been outsourced on numerous occasions, and the other half of his family who are doctors (psychiatry and dermatology are the two fields he's specifically mentioned) and live quite cushy lives, complete with BMWs and large houses.</p>
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<p>It's funny how people in H.S./College want to ignore me, but people outside of college and actually <em>WORKING in engineering</em> agree with me to some extent (such as Jeffl and Unggio)!!
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<p>Just for the record, golubb_u, I debunked you in the computer science thread; or did you forget? You mention troubles that SOME engineers face during their professional careers. Heck, LOTS (your words) of them face it -- "lots" as in "more than a handful." But it's a far cry from the majority, which is what you're erroneously trying to convey. Please stop spreading your misinformation.</p>
<p>Will Price
Software Engineer
PROS Revenue Management, Houston, TX
Rice University graduate</p>
<p>(translation: "out of college and actually WORKING")</p>
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"golubb there has been more than 2 or 3 people that have said your statements are incorrect"</p>
<p>Well, these people are still in HS or college...they don't have any idea what's going on in engineering.
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<p>Trust me, I'm fairly certain that I know what's going on in college, and I have told you several times that you are wrong. </p>
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It's funny how people in H.S./College want to ignore me, but people outside of college and actually <em>WORKING in engineering</em> agree with me to some extent (such as Jeffl and Unggio)!!</p>
<p>I think the wanne-be engineers are in for a ruudeee awakening once they get into the field.</p>
<p>Aibar...I'll wait and see if your response changes after getting laid off one or twice...and never say never, especially in EE
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<p>I'm fairly certain that both unggio and jeffl said that they were still in college. </p>
<p>Again, I will ask you the same question that I have asked you for awhile. If engineering is such a bad thing to get your bachelor's degree in, what should you be getting your bachelor's in? Film Studies?</p>
<p>or worse yet something as useless as pre-med. after all, med schools aren't exactly accepting gobs and gobs of people, and then after you graduate with that useless degree you got what are you going to do. i find it funny that you say that being a doctor is such a 'safe' position. you go through 4 years undergrad + 4 years of med school + 3 years of residency +anywhere from 2-3 years for a specialty to make. yes doctors make a lot, but they also work a lot more hours during residency (where nurses outrank you). in addition, doctors carry a lot of responsibility, and have expensive insurance and depending on what specialty you go into you have to worry about malpractice suits.</p>
<p>i'm not saying the medical field is bad, but if you look hard enough there are 'really bad things' about any profession. the fact is if you think 'politics, having to learn new things all the time, and having to attend meetings' is SOOOOO bad and terrible, then your unmotivated ass probably won't make it through med school either (if you even make it there).</p>
<p>and you cant tell me i dont know what i'm talking about, because my entire dad's side of the family consists of nothing but doctors. in fact i'm probably the 2nd person in my family to break the mold and NOT pursue a med degree.</p>
<p>(This thread was nice and deceased!! Don't resurrect it!)</p>
<p>aibarr how is it goin?........where are you working currently.....and how much are you making?.....lol i know its a bit random but there you go........im vacillating at this point...its industrial/civil/architectural engineering..........cant seem to find any valid info on job opportunities/pay for each of these fields.....</p>
<p>Just wanted to say thanks to everyone for their help. I am trying to decide between medicine or electrical engineering. Everyone's advice has been great, but it seems to me like golubb_u is a tad biased.</p>
<p>" am trying to decide between medicine or electrical engineering. "</p>
<p>...please, do yourself a HUGE favor and don't go into engineering. It's not what you think it is....watch the movie "office space" to get a feel for it...it's a comedy, but it's pretty much true where it counts.</p>
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<blockquote> <p>" am trying to decide between medicine or electrical engineering. "</p> </blockquote>
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<p>Why don't you take some electrical engineering courses and get a feel for it? Do you enjoy physics II a lot? If you really love the introductory engineering courses and excel in physics II, then go for it.</p>
<p>Remember that you'll still have the option of majoring in EE and then choosing medical school afterwards. Engineering is a flexible degree. Or, you can work as an engineer for some time, save up some money, and then go to medical school.</p>
<p>You even have the option of doing medical school for some time and if it's too stressful on you, you can take some time off (for like a year or two), make some dough as an engineer (50K +); then go back and get that MD. Engineering is an awesome back-up profession. Sure, be a doctor; but make sure you have a valuable backup degree till you get that final, official "MD".</p>
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<p>Congratulations, golubb_u. You're just like him!</p>
<p>To everyone else:
Please do yourself a HUGE favor and make up your own minds. Don't let anyone (including myself or my friend golubb_u here) tell you what to do with your life, and remember there are always THREE sides to a coin: the good, the bad, and the truth. The trick is to figure out which is which.</p>
<p><em>clap clap clap clap clap clap clap</em>.</p>
<p>Good show, wrprice. Well-put. Let's leave this thread alone now.</p>