What is generally considered a typical Asian?

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<p>And to nbachris:</p>

<p>You have no idea what kind of person I am, so you have no right to judge me without having ever seen me or spoken to me directly.</p>

<p>"LOL, so is this like a Where's Waldo?, except you replace that goof with a minority? You got a shopping bag with a black guy? Well, I have a racist t-shirt for you. I think I win."</p>

<p>What the hell are you smoking? How is it a where's waldo if there is only one guy on the entire bag??? Last time I ever looked at a Where's Waldo, there were hundreds of ppl on the same page. There is one guy on the bag, and he is black. I have another bag with one girl on it, and she is black. If you call this a where's waldo game, oh boy it's really easy to win since there is only one person!!! I dont know about you, but I haven't seen an A&F bag with millions of white guys on it with one black one hidden somewhere. Before you try to use analogies, maybe you should first know about what you are referring to.</p>

<p>"Do not dare imply that racism is something we all have to just live with in America, and that it is acceptable in any degree."</p>

<p>Do I tolerate racism??? Heck no! Last time some cocky white kid started saying racist ***** to me in school, I beat the living daylights out of him. In case you don't know Mr. I am a football jock so I can just start flipping out on you, being a hardcore powerlifter combined with years of martial arts I happen to be one of the strongest people in the school, and stronger than any other asian by far. I would go as far as to say that I am 99% sure that my physical prowess is superior to yours.</p>

<p>We both got suspended, but I didn't care. All I knew was that racist SOB was served. When others get picked on because of their race, that's their own fight. I do not fight the fights for others. I take care of myself. Think about it (if you can), if each and every one of us took care of ourselves, there would be no more problems. The problem with most kids is themselves. The reason that most asian kids give for getting trampled on is "oh I don't care" or "he didn't really mean it" or "I didn't want any trouble" and then they complain about it later when the racist isn't around.</p>

<p>You know what, if ppl can't stand up for themselves, why should I help them? For instance, there is the one kid who is known as "the loser" in my school and he's white. And guess what? Other white kids make fun of him and abuse him. You see? This hazing and abuse has nothing to do with race. The kid made himself who he is and everyone knows that. Same thing with asian nerds. They are being made fun of mostly because they are "nerds", "geeks", or "losers". It's not really racism. It's the same type of hazing that occurrs between the white kids. Of course this does not make it right, but the kid put himself in the position that he is in right now. What am I supposed to do about it?</p>

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<p>Geez sorry about getting so worked up in my last post. It was directed to nbachris and only him. The rest of you can ignore it if you want. Just that certain people really make me angry. I never go down without a fight.</p>

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<p>EUGENE!!!!</p>

<p>i know an asian eugene around age 17 from jersey. hes like ghetto asian, but with semi-big glasses. goofy lookin, but somehow he gets the chicks. i dont get it.</p>

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<p>Eugene S, I understand that many Asians are not very big or whatever.</p>

<p>Hey, it doesn't matter if you are the biggest football jock or the smallest nerd, if someone starts disparaging you, who you are, your family and your heritage, you need to take it into your own hands. </p>

<p>Besides, most of the people who are doing all those racist things or saying those slurs are just losers with absolutely no guts. Some of them may look big because they are lifting weights all the time, but just remember that beneath it all they're spineless wimps that have no heart and fold whenever there is danger.</p>

<p>BTW- I'd never buy A + F and their trash.</p>

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When others get picked on because of their race, that's their own fight. I do not fight the fights for others.

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<p>A heroic attitude indeed. This is how progress is made in society, everybody.</p>

<p>You can dismiss my criticism of your posts as mere "PMS-ing", but let's go over them, shall we?</p>

<p>First, you explicitly stated that you were spared the obligatory tormenting of minorities that seemed so popular among your non-Asian friends because you "earned their respect". Not only is this disturbing because of the fact that you'd willingly appease and associate with those who exhibit strong racist tendencies (as stated by you, not me), but that you feel it is something honourable and worthy to earn the "respect" of these types. In essence, you are saying that because you are a "better" Asian than most, you deserve to associate with non-Asians. Now what kind of Asian sambo-ism is that? </p>

<p>Second, you also explicitly stated that anybody who complains of racism should leave the U.S. and go back to their native country. You don't tolerate racism? Then why ask, nay demand, those who dare complain of it to return to their "homeland" (what if they were born in the U.S.)? I don't care if you punched out some cocky kid because you could have done it out of pride and to preserve your own ego out of the sheer fact that some cocky kid insulted you. Since you have so anti-heroically stated how the racial troubles of others gives you little concern, I doubt that your fight was out of concern for racial acceptance, and was instead borne of a bruised ego.</p>

<p>And with the couple of black people you found on A&F bags... Yeah, I guess the Lone Ranger was racially egalitarian because Tonto was Native American. Or any countless movies with a black sidekick. Hell, why do we even need Spike Lees anymore? Equality is everywhere in Hollywood!</p>

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I never go down without a fight.

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<p>As long as it only concerns you, right?</p>

<p>By now, you've probably dismissed me as some angry AZN who can't get any friends and has to angrily vent out at the racist world. I'll let you think that if that comforts you; I mean, this worthless debate is nothing more than a series of bytes in an infinite cyberspace. I just hope you'll realize that racism is not a series of isolated events brought on by "deserving" victims (whether it is by their nerdiness, foreign-ness, etc.), but a broad social problem that needs every able fighter to combat it.</p>

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<p>I don't know about you all, but I've protected myself against racism fairly well. Just make friends with the right people. Well, it could be easier said than done for you all. It was fairly easy for me because there's so much diversity at my school. For example, I am, myself, an asian nerd who loves science, calculus, etc. who happens to be six feet tall and holds a school record on the swim team. I've made friends with lineman, the swim team captain, other nerds (of varying shapes and sizes), and mediocre students of all races. In the end, those people became were like blankets.</p>

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<p>Kudos to you asianwazoo. It's ppl like you and me that will become successful in life. Creating friendships and aqcuaintances with all sorts of people is not an easy task to do. I am also very academically serious. I also do some nerdy activities like the chess club. I too have friends that are white, black, asian, mexican, and indian. They are Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, and Muslims. They also range from nerds, jocks, skaters (those who seem to have skateboards no matter where they go), preppy looking kids, gangsta looking kids, etc. This actually does significantly decrease the amount of racist remarks directed at you. When people know that you are not someone to mess with, they usually won't bother. It is the weak prey that predators go after. The kids who are usually picked on (regardless of race) are usually those who are isolated and have very few or no friends. Maybe he's a new kid. As long as he's normal soon he'll find some friends. Usually, it's because nobody likes the kid so nobody wants to be his friend. Some kids have gone to my school for 3-4 years already and still are so isolated and lonely. Most of the time it's their own fault for being so anti-social. They do not even try to be friends with anyone.</p>

<p>Based on nbachris' last post, I don't think he understands me correctly. I'm not being selfish. I have to admit that I have a big ego, but that's not the point here. I don't fight (physically, verbally, and/or legally) for others, because I know they have the ability, so they should do it on their own. There's is this one handicapped kid in our school whos disabled to a wheelchair. One day, some geeky asian kid (omg an azn???) starts making fun of this guy saying some really terribly things to him. He calls him "cripple", etc. Then he starts hitting him (!!!). You know what? I'm not going to allow this. Why? Because the kids friggin disabled! Thats why. So I tell my wrestling teamate, to look over there, and we go stop the whole incident. And we made sure it never happened again. Then we propose to the wrestling team that we all get the backs of the handicapped kids in the school. Ever since, these kids have received the best treatment anyone could ask for. To make things clear, I have never endorsed racism. Just because I am on good terms with some kids that say racist things (being on bad terms with them would be stupid right?), does not make me a racist. In fact, I have never ever used a racist insult, unless it was intended as a joke among friends (and everyone knows its a joke). Whever I vent my anger it is using generic curses like f<strong><em>, s</em></strong>, a<em>**ole, b</em>*ch etc. If a friend asks me for help with a problem he's having, I'll advise him/her (usually a him) on how to handle the situation.</p>

<p>In the adult world after high school and college, the same principals apply. It is connections that can help get you a job and move up the corporate ladder of America. Of course it isn't necessary, but extra help never hurts. The conclusion: makes friends of all different shapes, sizes, and colors.</p>

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<p>"i know an asian eugene around age 17 from jersey. hes like ghetto asian, but with semi-big glasses. goofy lookin, but somehow he gets the chicks. i dont get it."</p>

<p>Haha. Thats funny. I'm not really that ghetto. My glasses are semi-small. I am kinda goofy lookin tho, I'll have to admit.</p>

<p>Chicks? Dude I am so bad at hooking up with girls, that it isn't even funny anymore. I can usually get a first date, but it never gets past that. All I ever get is "You are really funny and nice, but let's just be friends." Yes the dreaded "lets just be friends" phrase. One of my friends even bought me a Dating for Dummies book for my birthday. LOL.</p>

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Kudos to you asianwazoo. It's ppl like you and me that will become successful in life.

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<p>Oh please. I'm rolling my eyes...</p>

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<p>u sure u dont go to wwphsn?</p>

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<p>wraider2006:</p>

<p>"Oh please. [You're] rolling [your] eyes..." ...why exactly?</p>

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<p>Sure, both of you probably will become very successful in life. But it's not just "people like you"... there are other paths to success in life. Eugene S made it sound as if the only way to make something of yourself is to have non-asian friends and do stereotypically un asian things. He made it sound like it was a priority to make non-asian friends, because this was the only way to acceptance and popularity in American society.</p>

<p>But it shouldn't have to be that way. When I'm in school, I'm not going to be thinking, "Hmmm... I better make some more white or black friends, and preferably jocks so that I will be cool in their eyes and not just looked down upon as another puny asian..." You shouldn't be pushing for more friends of one race or another.</p>

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<p>Hey An0nym0u5:</p>

<p>idk what/where wwphsn is, but no, I don't go there.</p>

<p>wraider2006:</p>

<p>Hey man you're right. You too will also probably have success in life. You seem like a nice kid so I really hope you do.</p>

<p>Anyway, I think you might have slightly misunderstood me. It is the disadvantage of being limited by text rather than a live conversation. I wasn't saying that everywhere I go, I have to try to be friends with "cool" people or anything. Like I said, I try to be friends with everyone. My point was, that a typical pattern I see in succesful people is that they get along well with everyone. Certain people seem to be filled with contempt or hate for others; some also constantly criticize and scrutinize the actions of other people. I'm sure that we all have seen people who always seem to be angry about very trivial matters. Nowadays it's amuzing to see people even flipping out on others that they don't know on the internet.</p>

<p>If you define success as going to a HYPSM/Ivy League level college, and then starting off with a high-paying job, then yes, even very anti-social ppl can accomplish this. Unfortunately, few of these people will actually find themselves happy. As psychological studies show (I won't even go into this, you all can do your own research) humans are social animals and cannot live happily in an isolated environment.</p>

<p>I define success as being happy as who/what you are. You can be a multi-millionaire working on Wall Street, but if you are unhappy with you life, then I consider you to be unsuccessful. If you are a car mechanic, who has to work longer hours than the Wall Street guy while earning far less money, but you love cars and you are really excited everytime you get to pop open the hood and tinker with the engine, then I consider that a success.</p>

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<p>i laugh at what you guys think a typical asain is. You obviously have never been to california where the largest asian communities reside. Asians are not all smart book worms. Ive met asians that are as stupid as FOREST GUMP. I worked with this Korean dude named Joo Young MOON at UPS unloading trucks. This guy was easily one of the stupidest kids i have ever met in my life. He would rap about his korean car and always wanted to know if i wanted a cookie.</p>

<p>than there is stockton. ive met some ghetto asians out there. enough said.</p>

<p>sacramento-need i say anything more. that city has asian gangs such as the asian crips, and those dudes do not mess around. they are just as willing to vandalize, rob, pillage, and steal, and use weapons, as is any other gang in california. </p>

<p>If you want to know what me a californian and non asian thinks a typical asian is- its merley this simple: there is no such thing is a "typical asian" all asians may have similar characteristics, but they all have different virtues. and thats what makes them human beings like ever one else.</p>

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<p>The idea here is what is the typical asian "stereotype"? Remember, stereotypes don't apply to all, which is exactly why it's a stereotype.</p>

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<p>Eugene i feel what your saying for the most part. Genentically speaking alot of asians can get physically intimidated. but like i said before i live in california. ive have seen buff asian foot ball players, ive seen asian basketball stars on my old high school team. believe it or not there are tall asians and buff asians. Its just when your in california most asians dont fit the typical stereotype. Most asians out here tend to assimilate into mainstream american culture. Go to oakland or the east bay and you'll see asian kids in Jordans or air force ones and baggy pants, or jelled up hair with skateboard shoes. Why cant people be people</p>

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<p>"In my school, all tennis and golf teams are 99% asian. The top ten ranked students are all asian except for me (I'm white). Science bowl is 100% asian. The magnet in my school is visibly 50% asian. I keep overhearing asians in my classes discussing how their parents are so ****ed off because they got a C in a really hard AP US class. Only about 10 of those asians have a chance at HYPSM.</p>

<p>Also I heard from someone going to UCLA that the school is more than 50% asian (visibly). This explains why one hispanic senior with no ECs and 1010 SAT got into UCLA but a white guy with 1440 SAT, captain of 2 varsity sports and a bunch of ECs got rejected from UCLA. They need more diversity so URMs with mediocre scores get in over much more qualified students.</p>

<p>I would imagine this situation is present in most California schools. Wouldn't this make it harder for asians to get into top colleges because the top students at each school are asian? "</p>

<p>Um this is technically impossible. As a person who got into the University of California, i can assure you that the UC System has policy of not admitting based on race. It is in concurrance with california law. Secondly statisticly there is evidence on ucla's site that posts the stats of their applicants that suggests that ,NO ONE who got into UCLA with a 1010 on their SAT. There for you were mereley making up facts.</p>

<p>infact the UNIVERSTIY OF CALIFORNIA has the largest ratio of Asians in their student body, than does any other public university system in the country.</p>

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<p>Good points you brought up there croberts532. Yeah, I have heard from many ppl that California and the East coast are so different.</p>

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<p>i would just like to say i went to school with and played rec basketball with #10 pick of the Lakers mr. andrew bynum.</p>

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<p>I'm ASIAN and very very proud of it! In my school, our lunch rooms are seperated into 3 different parts; Whites, Indians, and Oriental. Of course there are sub groups, but mostly we don't mingle with the Indians or the Whites, but there are exceptions.</p>