<p>Conflict based on religion may be dependent on whether those with strongly held religious beliefs are “pushy” about it – e.g. aggressively trying to convert others who have previously expressed no interest, or criticizing things considered sinful by their religion but not others and not otherwise bothersome, or outright prejudice and discrimination against members of other religions or no religion. There may also be those with weak or no religious beliefs who engage in prejudice and discrimination against more religious people (whether all religions, or just some of them).</p>
<p>Nrdsb4 asked: “Why is the photo in that article a pic of actor Jeremy Piven?”</p>
<p>That is a photo from the awesome flick “PCU”, where the fictional campus of Port Chester University is riddled with political correctness. There is a scene in the movie where students are making formal complaints against others who offended them (I think the “hippies”, who were protesting outside the cafeteria, reported having meat tossed on them by Piven and his cohorts). It actually has some good people in it (Jessica Walters, Jon Favreau, David Spade, George Clinton and P-Funk at the end); I think I have a soft spot for this movie because I went to Brown in the early 90s and let’s just say I could relate!</p>
<p>“I never realized when I read 1984 and animal farm they were actually true stories.”
-I did not read the article, however, “The Animal Farm” is absolutely true story, millions will tell you that and unfortunate 150 millions would if they could from their graves.</p>
<p>the routine is well know, the cancelling of classes, demands, candlelight stuff… in dukes case professors and students clamoring for castration and when it is all over it is a hoax…the administration who is so gun ho to stand up to the hate, quietly slithers away and makes a statement about we all must stand against hate, no apology for all the things that were said and done in the meanwhile. </p>
<p>Colleges are also afraid of getting sued if they don’t quickly respond to allegations of racial bias. Some of this effort is simple risk management.</p>
<p>I do disagree with this slightly - Muslims are not included on the list.</p>
<p>Think about it:</p>
<ol>
<li><p>Who do you think a college will chastise and take funding away from: 1) a devout christian group, based on religious beliefs, that does not accept an outwardly transgender or homosexual student as a member or 2) a muslim group, based religious beliefs, that does not accept an outwardly transgender or homosexual student as a member?</p></li>
<li><p>Who do you think will be asked asked to change his tee shirt if someone says they are offended: 1) a person walking around around with a big cross on his tee shirt or a person walking around with a picture of Muhammad on his tee shirt?</p></li>
</ol>
<p>I put any money the christian group would be kicked off campus defunded and the muslim group left alone, and the cross wearer would be asked to change his shirt. Such reporting systems have many biases built into their enforcement.</p>
Probably neither. While I think some college speech codes go too far, I don’t think they merit the hysterical response of the right-wing blogosphere. Most of the horrible persecution of religious and conservative students at liberal colleges is fantasy.</p>
<p>The chance of a Muslim walking around with a picture of Muhammad on his tee shirt is approximately zero. Muslims generally frown on depictions of the prophet. </p>
<p>zobroward, if you want to be taken seriously you will have to come up with better sources than “Your daily dose of *RIGHT-*minded campus news.”</p>
<p>I agree with Hunt–show me the evidence of the horrible persecution of religious/conservative students. Or any evidence that Muslims are shown more tolerance than Christians.</p>
<p>I respectfully disagree. And, I like the couching, “Probably neither.” It is your hope that would be the case; mine too. I just do not have the faith in bureaucrats that you do.</p>
<p>awcntdb, do you have actual examples of Christian persecution on college campuses, or the “turning a blind eye” to egregious behavior among Muslims?</p>
<p>Thanks for correction, You are correct there. </p>
<p>I should have used a different example as an expression - pick a muslim symbol. My position stays the same. I do think the religions are treated differently in several arenas. </p>
<p>Not a campus, but remember when the cartoons of Mohammed were printed in Europe and the editors and cartoonists were getting death threats as a result? CNN and other news outlets wouldn’t show the cartoons that were at the center of the controversy, for fear of offending.</p>
I can be pretty cynical, but I just don’t see much evidence for the idea that there is all this official persecution of the religious on liberal campuses. It comes up year after year here on CC, and the examples are pretty sparse (and many are old). It’s mostly a theoretical concern. What really does happen, however, is that sometimes kids with certain religious views will go to liberal college campuses and find that their views are so far out of the mainstream that most other students think that those views are pernicious (such as the view that homosexuality is an abomination) or ignorant (such as the view that evolution never happened). This is not the fault of bureaucrats.</p>
<p>This similar to what I thought in reverse of a few things discussed on CC a while back. Much of the perceived persecution of different groups on the college campus is fantasy. So, I guess we all have our fantasies. </p>
<p>sally 305,
"zobroward, if you want to be taken seriously you will have to come up with better sources than “Your daily dose of RIGHT-minded campus news.”’
I’m sorry is something that I mentioned not true? which of those stories is fake? please do tell. the truth may not fit what you want it to be, but I challenge you to refute the stories or the sources. they are not in dispute. so what is your issue?</p>