<p>Why do we get so much priority?</p>
<p>i was looking at the freshman statistics for UCLA I was like WOW they keep up such a high GPA for four years and break their backs and still some get rejected.</p>
<p>Honestly I know I know I'm not taking anyone from our crowd (CC'ers) but seriously all schools like UCLA see if like 1 1/3's worth of grades and we have such a sick transfer rate like 45%.</p>
<p>I guess i'm just feeling sorry the overflow of freshman apps this year</p>
<p>It has to do with the academic progression of the state. The UCs are obliged, if I remember correctly, by state policy which translates CCC to UC/CSU transfers as an investment in the state populace --sort of like inclusive fitness if you've even taken a Bio course.</p>
<p>dude, you need to work on your grammar...</p>
<p>Seriously.</p>
<p>Grammar Girl will help</p>
<p>Also one benefit of accepting a transfer is you can be pretty certain they're not going to goof off their first year and drop out. They've figured this college thing out for the most part and are ready to take school more seriously. But don't think that CCers don't necessarily work as hard, getting an A in a college class is a bit more difficult than getting an A in a high school class, and nothing is weighted like APs, so the GPA isn't expected to be as high.</p>
<p>Just like Ektaylor said, it is a state policy.</p>
<p>"getting an A in a college class is a bit more difficult than getting an A in a high school class"</p>
<p>lol are you serious. junior college classes are for the most part a joke.</p>
<p>This is the system. Take advantage of it!</p>
<p>I most definitely agree with adriennevy-- high school classes were a joke compared to serious junior college classes. Community college classes, at the very least, cover a more sophisticated level of content than high school courses do.</p>
<p>Yea, I don't really understand where people are coming from when they say CCC are a joke -- unless difficultly level of CCCs varies greatly from campus to campus. Also, at my CCC, a lot of the profs teach both at Cal Poly SLO and the CCC which may increase the difficultly level for those classes.</p>
<p>As far as comparing them to high school; there is no comparison. I mean, if you actually do what the prof asks of you, CCC classes can be quite challenging (and rewarding). And this is coming from a former AP student.</p>
<p>Though, that is not to say that I would ever equate CCC classes with those of a UC.</p>
<p>I'd say that the difficulty of AP courses and community college courses are equivalent... Other high school courses, fuggedaboutit</p>
<p>to be fair, it depends on the professor. we just can't rate the class by the name. A Calc 3 class with a professor that gives you homework, goes over all of the problems in class and then puts those exact problems on the one midterm that you have to do... well, I've heard a lot about such classes and took one myself. It's pretty easy.</p>
<p>then you get that professor that goes over the same stuff, every single day. then says, "oh yes, we have a midterm... i know we really didn't go over francis bacon... or thomas hobbes... but we really covered machiavelli. so you guys should be able to safely answer the first question." =/ out of 4 other essays... we got one down. yay for us.</p>
<p>I think difficulty really depends on the CCC, professor, and class. I had some really easy CCC classes that didn't ask for much if you wanted an A. However, I also took classes where professors were extra tough because they knew many students were planning on transferring and they wanted to give us a "taste" of what class is like at a 4-year.</p>
<p>At De Anza, all of my professors were graduates of very prestigious universities--all of them had also completed some sort of masters program (a couple completed PhD programs as well). </p>
<p>At Foothill's Honors program, two of my professors were ex-UCLA and Berkeley professors that happened to retire in Santa Cruz. Both of these professors were also widely published and had many received MANY awards. My 3rd professor went to grad school at Stanford, but she didn't mention her accomplishments (she didn't like talking about herself). </p>
<p>My De Anza classes were either on par or slightly more difficult than my AP classes in HS.</p>
<p>My Foothill classes have been WORLDS beyond any classes I've taken yet. Should I be successful as a transfer student, I would have to WHOLLY credit my experiences at Foothill for that. I considered myself an avid / far above average writer (scored 11/12 several times on ACT and SAT essays, wrote for school newspapers, etc) prior to Foothill where, for the first time since the 6th grade, a teacher marked up one of my essays with red ink. And while my paper was bleeding red, the experience pushed me to critically evaluate myself as a writer. </p>
<p>In Conclusion: De Anza / Foothill = W1n</p>
<p>"they wanted to give us a "taste" of what class is like at a 4-year"</p>
<p>Ugh, I loathe those teachers with a passion. Although, most of them were math/science teachers, so I can see where they're coming from...</p>
<p>Urgh, so sick of their nonsense, their courses aren't rigorous, and going through the motions doesn't help anyone.</p>
<p>Yeah, once you transfer, once will be the maximum number of times you are made to do something--practice should at the discretion of the student.</p>
<p>My professors are mostly at least competent, but for some, I wonder why they try so hard even when one or two students care, and only a bunch more show up, so they won't fail the exams.</p>