<p>Since you cant find it in the USNEWS ranking, I wanted 2 know what it was best for...how does it stand in Econ. or Engineering?</p>
<p>Thanks for any replies!</p>
<p>mcgill isnt known for engineering. Try University of Toronto or University of Waterloo (dubbed the MIT of Canada). UofT also has an excellent economics program. McGill is solid at most liberal arts subjects. UofT is also pretty solid in these subjects too. Waterloo is essentially the MIT of Canada. It is a haven for engineers, math majors.</p>
<p>I was under the impression that waterloo suked...
How hard is it to get into U-Toronto? is it harder than Mcgill?</p>
<p>They are all equally easy to get into. You can't go wrong with Waterloo/UofT for engineering. McGill is strong on liberal arts(languages, international relations and the likes).</p>
<p>i cant underestimate the strength of waterloo engineering or the school as a whole. It is ranked 1st in overall repuation by Macleans (our USnews)...ahead of UofT, Queens, McGill.</p>
<p>UofT and McGill have about the same selectivity.</p>
<p>McGill's law program and medical program are also well regarded (although those are graduate programs, and you're probably looking at undergraduate programs)</p>
<p>What are the Canadian rankings?</p>
<p>MacLeans seems to be the main ranking place for Canadian universities, although there may be others.</p>
<p>Just a question to other Canadians/Americans; are the Canadian "primarily undergraduate" institutions similar to the American LACs?</p>
<p>McGill has an excellent music program.</p>
<p>yup, it's known for it's music dep't.</p>
<p>cdndancer - technically yes but they are worlds different from american LACs. Most canadian LACs arent as selective as their research intensive counterparts. Also, they arent as intimate as american LACs because they really arent that small....nor do they have the resources (publically funded). Look for an american public LAC and that should be similar to canadian primarily undergrads (cept americans are usually smaller).</p>
<p>I heard that McGill is best at biology/pre-med.</p>
<p>For US applicants, I've heard that McGill is about as selective as Northwestern & Toronto is about as selective as Lehigh.</p>
<p>Waterloo is ranked No 1 for comprehensive U's while U of T is tanked no 1 for doctoral/medical. They are really quite different schools. In addition to those noted, chsk out queen's ... it is relatively small by Canadian standards with great spirit and very good academics. U of T has 3 campuses...the main one, St. George's, is very selective by Canadian standards...equal to McGill and Queen's. The latter is also excellent for engineering. I would say that these three schools are as selective as top state schools like Michigan and Wisconsin, but slightly less selective than Berkeley, UCLA and UVA. McGill and U of T also have top 10 NA quality med schools.</p>
<p>music, medicine</p>
<p>i'm applying to the engi faculty</p>
<p>It's been disscused before but it's important to note that while Mcgill, U of T and Queen's have a selectivity as the top U.S states schools, there academics are very different from Michigan or Chapel Hill. These Canuck schools really argue the point that selectivity doesn't mean the same as academics. these schools are as selective yes as the U.S. state schools, but depending on your program will give you the academics of a top ten school in the U.S. Of course I mean these schools only. The otehr canuck schools are fairly comparable to top U.S state schools in academics.</p>
<p>i would disagree about the selectivities of UofT and McGill. If youre applying for arts, schools like Michigan, UNC, Berkeley, UF are more selective. If youre applying for engineering etc then UofT is possibly more selective than all except Berkeley. Also, out-of-state, these US state schools are as selective as top privates and since there is no out-of-province, its really difficult to compare the selectivites of these schools. You should probably have an idea of what you want to major in BEFORE you apply to canadian university, because, as opposed to the states, this will make a huge difference in selectivity.</p>
<p>Arts: 80+ will get you in everywhere except UBC and McGill</p>
<p>Commerce: 85+ will get you into UofT and Laurier, 90+ competitive for other top programs</p>
<p>Health Science: 85+ is competitive everywhere</p>
<p>Engineering: 90+ competitive at UofT, Waterloo (the best)</p>
<p>Also these are canadian grades (a bit tougher) so you might need higher.</p>
<p>Other science: 80+ is competitive everywhere</p>
<p>oh yeah and when we discuss selectivity, we have to remember that in the states you have to perform on a certain level for 4 years as opposed to 1. This adds another dimension to this comparison, making it even more difficult to gauge.</p>
<p>mcgill is overrated</p>
<p>Actually, my son will be attending McGill this Fall. He was a full IB -US student- graduating 3rd in his class. Unlike US schools, McGill didn't give a darn about his ECS -though his ECS were rather impressive-it was straight academics-GPA and test scores.<br>
McGill has the program he wants and, while perhaps not so well known in other parts of the States, it has a very fine reputation in NYC, DC, and abroad.<br>
We have also known several US students from top competitive NYC schools both public and private who were not accepted to McGill.
But, prestige was not what my son was after. It was the program offered and the setting (urban as he is used to) that drew him to apply to McGill.
My advice to any HS student here is to look for the Program you are interested in, then the setting, urban, suburban, etc.-and certainly the cost if that is a factor.</p>
<p>what is the program?</p>
<p>I have to agree that McGill is incredibly overrated in the states whereas in Canada it is merely known as one of the best schools; not THE best. I find it overrated because most americans dont apply to Queens or Toronto nearly as much as they do to McGill.</p>