<p>My GPA is ~3.75-3.8
However my class rank is about top 21%, since my high school is so competitive (my HS does not have UW GPA)</p>
<p>Which is more important? Rank or GPA?</p>
<p>Definately GPA, I know a guy that has a 3.68 GPA and is ranked #1 in his high school. The 3.68 GPA will tell the college of how much academically driven you are rather then them guessing a GPA of someone who is ranked #1who is doesn't care much about school.</p>
<p>Or you could look at it the other way. Maybe the kid ranked #1 with a 3.68 goes to a VERY difficult high school that has very difficult teachers. What if a kid has a 4.0 uw, but 30 other kids at their school have a 4.0 too? The ranking would hopefully show that he is ranked #1 with 30 other people. The kid with the 3.68 could be way smarter and worked way harder for that 3.68 than the kid who got a 4.0 because of grade inflation.</p>
<p>What about if you're ranked in the top 2% but 20 other people in your class has a 4.0 W or higher GPA too?</p>
<p>How big is your class?</p>
<p>Apparently its around 1000.</p>
<p>My school is very competitive. It sends approx. 90% of graduating students to university. Approx. 5% go to art schools, and the other 5% don't get college degrees.
Mostly, people graduating from here go to universities here in Switzerland, but about 10% go out of the country. They usually go places like La Sorbonne in Paris, Oxford or Cambridge in the UK, Tufts, Brown, etc.
I was very surprised when I saw my rank, because I thought with my GPA I would be in the top 15 at least, but I guess not.
I'm 36 out of 178 or something.</p>
<p>Well the 3.8 isn't bad, but being out of the 2nd decile will hurt. I know it sucks that you are just out of it. Don't want to scare you, but the admissions rate of people outside the 2nd decile is somewhere between 10-5%.</p>
<p>I think they look at rank first, and then GPA. I have a 91, and I am in the top decile (there are only 80 kids in my class). The top GPA is a 95. I would think that if a kid had a 3.68 and was ranked first in his class, then the rank would matter more because obviously that student goes to a very difficult school.</p>
<p>Akajjred & domestican: my class is slightly more than 150 people
I think there is grade inflation at my school >.<</p>
<p>Rank is, by far, the single most important thing in college admissions. A low Gpa, but a high rank will simply show the high school is very tough. A high Gpa and a low rank will just show that the school has grade inflation.</p>
<p>Neither. Individual grades in specific classes based on difficulty and pertinence to your passion/academic interest. </p>
<p>Overall rank and GPA are merely vague standards to get yourself through the first gate of admissions at Georgetown.</p>
<p>My overall GPA, about 3.93 or so at the time, was at the bottom of the barrel of accepted students for Georgetown from my high school (probably 22/22). If you averaged the GPA of the classes that pertained to my passion (history/international affairs) that figure went up to like 4.5-4.6, higher than anyone graduating from my school. Granted I had a lot of other things going for me...but bottom line here is that in the sort of minutia your application is going to be decided on, if you make it to an actual full-committee vote, overall GPA and rank mean about zero.</p>
<p>I just asked my CC today, and she agrees (somwewhat) with Shark- rank is more important than grade.</p>
<p>Well, for me GPA is more important, since I havn't been in acutal high school for 2 years. I have no class rank, since it would give me an unfair advantage over everyone. And by the way, Georgetown unweights you GPAs. Meaning that everything ends up being based out 4.0. So if you think you have a 4.0+ you really don't. Unweighted my GPA is something like 3.1 in High School and 3.8 in college.</p>
<p>Copely, are you saying that some people don't even make it to the committe vote? I have very weird circumstances invovling my grades and SAT, as well as class rank etc. I had a serious circumstance my sophomore year, that caused for failing grades, however I went to college early and got all As. My SATs were also rather low, yet they are kind irrevelent, because I am succedding so much in college. Are you saying that they just auto-reject people, with low-grades and SATs, without looking into things?</p>
<p>The admissions committee could not possibly look at all the 15,000-plus applications that they get. Regional admission officers read the applications from their geographical area and then basically pick which ones they actually take to the committee. In other words, your application is probably ranked on a five-point scale in several areas and based on that the application is either shelved or moved to the next step. This is pretty much SOP at any school that's going to reject 80% or more of applicants. That being said, they don't just "auto-reject" people...there's definitely a subjective element that will take other things into consideration, like the stuff you mentioned. However, it's simply not feasible for the whole committee to look at every single application.</p>
<p>I understand that completely. I just have a weird circumstance, so I was worried my bad SAT scores would cause me to be "auto-rejected". Since, I have a weird case, I have all the extra stuff you could ask for. But not the SAT scores, and my grades are ify. I have that extra push and hook that no one really truly has. I just dont have the basics</p>