<p>^^ except this is about ED, so he can’t exactly apply to both and see…</p>
<p>but it is true that you should not be so sure of yourself, even with the legacy. Don’t let the sense of entitlement attitude show through in your essays, and you will be fine.</p>
<p>^He can apply to both ED. However, doing so will result in two rejections. I don’t see why it’s so hard to choose between Penn and Cornell in terms of which you want to apply ED to. I made the decision two years ago and location was the primary factor. Hopefully the OP can figure out what matters most to him and pick one of these schools. If not there’s a little thing called RD and plenty of people get into both Penn and Cornell RD.</p>
<p>you guys need to chill. Its a legitimate question and being a legacy does really change the game, even if it doesn’t transform it (I know plenty of legacies that were rejeted). I am a legacy, but will not be applying ED to Penn, but in my opinion Penn is far supperior to Cornell. More prestige, better location, cool cross-section of students, a lot of fun and so on…its a great place. Honestly, if you asked us between say Yale and Penn maybe I could understand, but the difference between Cornell and Penn is drastic on so many levels that I find it surprising you cannot decide on your own. It is true though that if you are a legacy you will get no benefit RD and it may in fact work against you. Just know that</p>
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<p>Cocky people never think they are being cocky.</p>
<p>If you don’t understand how your words (being the only thing people have to paint an impression of you) seem when most everyone else simply post their scores and ask humbly for an opinion, then you probably don’t understand the effect of relative comparison.</p>
<p>Bescraze is right - everyone knows Cornell is not a good school, and is far inferior to Penn in every way imaginable. Penn is the obvious choice.</p>
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<p>Lol, and everyone knows that Yale lags behind Penn just a bit. Bescraze is right.</p>
<p>lol just twist my words…I did say in my oppinion.</p>
<p>Also the reason I used Yale is the obvious comparison. They have similar locations (bad cities) similar focuses (humanities) and so on…so all of you ■■■■■■■ jumping to conclusions are obviously not the brightest. FYI yale is better than Penn, but comparing penn to cornell is stupid since they are so obviously different.</p>
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<p>I don’t think so. Penn is far superior to Yale because of its “cool cross-section of students” and “lots of fun.” Penn focuses on Business and preprofessional things such as premed and prelaw, which obviously matter more than the humanities and intellectualism that Yale offers so comparing Penn to Yale is stupid since they are so obviously different. Penn is better hands down. You seem like a ■■■■■■ to me.</p>
<p>how can anyone even begin to equate philly with new haven…</p>
<p>I think with any two schools major differences can be found. However, the problem for me is not deciding what the differences are between two schools but deciding what the advantages and disadvantages are with each difference.</p>
<p>The advantages and disadvantages ARE the differences.</p>
<p>Zester: A difference is that Penn is in the city and Cornell is in a rural area. With each comes advantages and disadvantages.</p>
<p>To Clarify: I have visited both at least twice. My sister and both my parents attended cornell, so I have visited at least 10 times. I visited Penn for the second time this spring and fell in love with the place and was certain that I wanted to go there, because the location seemed perfect and I was very attracted to the interdiscplinary nature of the university. After this visit, I was certain that I was applying to Penn early decision. Then, I spent my summer at cornell and had an awesome time. The campus and surrounding area is beautiful, my professors were incredible, and best of all every student I met was awesome and incredibly down to earth. The greek life is incredible and being outside a city gives off the real college experience. However, I am still slightly leaning towards Penn because it has greater prestige and I am very intrigued by its interdisciplinairy programs. Still, I am nervous that Penn is all snobby rich kids and that it is more preppy and less down to earth than Cornell.</p>
<p>Question: What is the social life like at Penn and how is it different than that at a school outside the city?</p>
<p>The social life at Penn is what you make of it. Same with Cornell. For guys it can be a tad greek centric if you want it to be (and nearly 1/2 of the guys do). Cornell has a large greek culture too. The one great thing about Penn is that while it has a city, it still has a great campus culture. Penn, like Cornell has a large number of upper classmen living off campus. Penn is lucky that most of the off campus housing is very close to campus, and only in the surrounding areas. The thing that separates Penn from Cornell is the availability of center city with restaurants, clubs, shows, Philly sports teams, and all the other perks of a city.</p>
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<p>Ahem. Winter in upstate New York…have fun with that</p>
<p>Winter has its downsides both in Ithaca and Philly. But at Cornell, students can learn to snowboard or ski and get credit for it. And if you already know how, you can still take these sports for PE credit.</p>
<p>“However, I am still slightly leaning towards Penn because it has greater prestige and I am very intrigued by its interdisciplinairy programs.”</p>
<p>I love how Ironic that is.
Firstly, Cornell has a similar interdisciplinary system.
And secondly, Penn doesn’t have as much prestige as Cornell. Everyone knows Cornell. But when you say Penn, people usually think to Penn State, and the ones that think of it as a university don’t realize that it’s an Ivy.
BTW, going to a school because of prestige is a bad thing.</p>
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I kind of disagree about their prestige. Cornell is often considered the “worst” ivy, partly due to its acceptance rate being higher than the other ivys (which is a rediculous justification) but for other more important factors as well. though i believe that distinction of the worst belongs to brown, lol. but penn is usually placed along with columbia the top out of the ivys excluding the top tier(HYP). </p>
<p>im glad you notice that going bc of prestige is a bad thing. especially when its by the name of the school. sure, people may get confused with penn state, and might not even think its an ivy, but they aren’t the ones who will be seeing your job application and college stats. </p>
<p>but anyway, back to the OP - Penn is the obvious choice if you just care about reputation in the eyes of academia (doesn’t mean newsweek - but its still holds true for that). but for other things you might feel important like location take your call. but you might not have a choice if you don’t get into one, or if not both. yes, that is possible. admission is NOT guaranteed to any ivy league school.</p>
<p>^ I’d just like to reiterate what you’re saying.</p>
<p>It is not guaranteed that you will be accepted to either university.</p>
<p>There are SO many threads about X vs. Y when the poster hasn’t even gotten into either college! To me the idea is ludicrous. How about waiting until you’ve been accepted to X and Y before asking which one you should go to?</p>
<p>Are you trying to say that if every single person on this thread said go to Penn (hypothetical, of course) you would just apply to Penn and not even fill out the Cornell application. No, of course you would not. So you’re thread is speculatively based on an decision that is months in the future with a very slim chance of arising. </p>
<p>A more appropriate thread (especially for Cornell vs. Penn) would be “Which should I apply to ED.” </p>
<p>When, and IF, (and that’s a big “if”) you get into both Cornell and Penn then you should revisit this thread.</p>
<p>Silly Biochem, the OP himself said that he has a 75-80% chance to get into either school!</p>
<p>Interesting thread</p>