<p>Is Temple in a good part of philly or is it in the ghetto part, cuz i know some parts of philly are nice and some you really dont wana be in. How is the campus as far as the area goes??</p>
<p>Was just up there yesterday, and yes, Temple's main campus is not located in one of Philadelphia's nicest neighborhoods.</p>
<p>Well im from NJ only about an hour out of NYC and im very fimiliar with it b/c my 2 uncles actually live in the NYC, so needless to say im in the city quite a bit and am very fimiliar with the city atmospher and the main reason i want to go to temple and even drexel is b/c of the city atmosphere so if its similiar to NYC the i think i should feel right at home. I just know in NYC there are some great parts and i have no fear at all but if i was to go to the bronx or harlem i would want outa there quick, so what im really asking is if the area around temple or even drexel would be equated to someplace like the bronx or harlem??</p>
<p>Well, this is just the view of one person, but my former bf who lives near Philadelphia decided not to go to Temple for the sole reason that he didn't want to be in that rough of a neighborhood. Drexel is in a better area however; I was around the Drexel campus in late January of this year (granted, it was during the day) and it was perfectly fine.</p>
<p>that sounds good but how would u equate it to NYC if u can, what part would u compare the temple and drexel location too vs. an area in NYC</p>
<p>The general area surrounding Temple isn't all the great but it's important to note that Temple is the safest college in Philadelphia. Philadelphia has the biggest police force in the state of PA; Pittsburgh has the 2nd biggest; and Temple has the 3rd biggest. On campus, however, you're really unaware of the surrounding area, plus you're in Center City via subway in only about 10 minutes.</p>
<p>ya i think its should be no problem, especially b/c im so fimiliar with NYC. and like you said its easy transport to nicer areas for night life and stuff, i think the area should be no problem</p>
<p>I've taken classes at Temple and my dad is an alumnus. Everyone makes a big deal out of nothing. Temple continues to buy up unused land to build upon facilities. I've walked alone around campus problem free. It's actually a lot nicer than people give it credit for. I personally think it's much nicer than Drexel.</p>
<p>I live on Long Island (45 minutes from NYC) and used to go into the city a lot. NOTHING happens...the reason is that there are always people on the streets. If there is 1 bad there are 50 good right around you, so they don't do anything. Although, I am sure there are places you want to avoid...especially at night.</p>
<p>The question and some of the responses here are quite interesting. In addressing the word ghetto, that seems to mean an area where people from a specific racial or ethnic background live as a group in seclusion, voluntarily or involuntarily. Since most of the residents living outside of Temple are black, the questioner seems to have a concern going to a school where this may be the make up of the neighborhood. One of the responses states "if i was to go to the bronx or harlem i would want outa there quick". With most of the residents of these neighborhoods being black as well (and unquestionably friendly, law abiding and nothing to be fearful of), not surprisingly, many individuals fear being in places where others dont look like themselves. I grew up in the NY area and now live in the Philadelphia area and am thus familiar with both neighborhoods. A lot of times, there can be a fear of the unknown. That is not to say crime does not occur in urban areas because it does all across America. Alternatively, the preference of many might be to dwell in an area like Penn State where the surrounding demographic likely includes residents which remind them of themselves. What many on boards like this rarely consider is that there is a segment of some student populations that also have fears and at times would want to be outa there in the so called pleasant suburban, rural or nice urban campus areas due to feelings of being out of place and isolated amongst the student body as a whole. In addressing the question, however, Temple is without question in an urban area wherein you will find a lot of neighboring row homes, single family homes, churches and buildings with commercial establishments such as fast food, drug stores, etc. While the majority of the residents in the area are black, most dont integrate themselves on to the Temple campus anymore than you would expect to find residents in other areas integrating themselves on to those campuses. When the questioner indicates there are some parts of Philly that you dont want to be in, I personally wouldnt describe Temple that way. I would suppose that ones upbringing dictates where they do and do not find comfort. At and on the immediate periphery of the campus, a college student should find all that they need to do to keep them content during the school year. If one wants to go to school in the city but would rather not venture off into predominately black residential neighborhoods, that is understandable and they have that option. Center City Philadelphia, however, is reasonably close by to venture to and take up the flavor of the city while be amongst those they feel comfortable next to and away from those they are fearful of. Because of the concerns of the student body and parents, Temples main campus does have a significant police presence. Whether they are on foot, bicycles, patrol cars or booths, you can barely walk a block and not see them around. Also, what some would characterize as violent crimes is not over the top at Temple when compared with other large college campuses across America. If such were true, I doubt that parents and students would pay the tuitions they do to result in a student enrollment population of just fewer than 30,000. Crime and violence can unfortunately happen anywhere, any time and through any demographic as Columbine and Virginia Tech remind us. However, it would be my view that the overwhelming majority of Temple students feel safe. If further concerns, it might be worth checking out <a href="http://www.securityoncampus.org/%5B/url%5D">http://www.securityoncampus.org/</a> which keeps a statistical log on reported campus crimes. You can compare the totals against the student population to assess whether you think you would feel safe (versus comfortable).</p>
<p>im not rasist im just saying that harlem and the bronx are bad areas regarless of who lives there, im just using them as examples of bad areas in generals im not really saying that there bad just becuase of who lives there, im sure there are white people that live there and are just as bad.</p>
<p>and i went on a tour of temple recently and i did not think it was really that bad it is just like anyother major city around, i dont think there is really anything to fear in that area</p>
<p>No one suggested that you were a racist (I dont even know how you define one). However, since you brought it up, if one were such, it would not be based upon one making a proclamation to affirm or deny same but rather through their words or actions reflecting such; even if unbeknownst to them. It is unfortunate that there are racists in the world but I dont make it a hobby horse of mine to ride daily by calling them out at this stage of my life. Nonetheless, I know that many are quick to deflect the stigma of being characterized as such in 2007 in America. Apparently, its not cool to be seen as a racist by the masses.</p>
<p>By the way, what makes Harlem a bad area today in 2007? How much time have you spent there to reach that conclusion? It is, by the way, ok to say, if true, that your perceptions come from the demographic majority that live there, what you perceive the media portrays of it or what the majority generally thinks about it that would want them to take heed to your initial post to be out of there.</p>
<p>Im deferring from making any comments on the Bronx. From your earlier note, I think I could guess what neighborhood you were referring to. However, since it is a large borough where the diversity throughout is extreme, I wont add any further remarks in response to this location.</p>
<p>I have to admit, however, that I did chuckle when you claimed to be sure of white people that live in Harlem that are just as bad (presumably as the black majority). Harlem has, I believe, a population of around 250,000 residents. There probably are white people that live there but I would believe that they would be limited to no more than 1 percent of this figure (or up to 2,500 residents). If you believe that some of the up to the 2,500 minority of white people in Harlem are not nice and they, in your opinion, are what drive your opinion in making Harlem bad, ..I dont know what to say That is an incredible suggestion.</p>
<p>In the event you have never been to Harlem which you understand to be bad, please permit me to provide you with two links to review where you can perhaps get a birds eye view of this area from the safety of your home computer. You may continue to think its bad afterwards but at least you can provide some substantive basis for your remarks which you have yet to do.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harlem%5B/url%5D">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harlem</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.harlemlive.org/%5B/url%5D">http://www.harlemlive.org/</a></p>
<p>ok how about we just drop the whole harlem and the bronx thing becuase i think were getting a little off topic here, can we just get back to posting about the area??</p>
<p>I did post about the area (Temple) three days ago to provide my thoughts to your question. The only reason why I added comments about Harlem and the Bronx is because you brought it up as a part of your topic. From your own quote, you state so what Im really asking is if the area around Temple or even Drexel would be equated to someplace like the Bronx or Harlem (areas you suggested were bad in other posts)? You have since offered that you didnt think the area of Temple was anything to fear. I think that holds true for the Bronx and Harlem as well but you characterized these locations as dangerous places. </p>
<p>You never know who is reading these posts. The very people reading this page on Temple might also be giving consideration to attend schools like Lehman in the Bronx or City College in Harlem. Even the great Columbia University is just a few blocks outside of Harlem and students from around the world desperately seek to go there without seemingly being concerned that it is adjacent to this neighborhood.</p>
<p>Sorry if you took personal offense to my comments but I felt it was important for the readers of this page to have a different perspective of the areas in question when compared to the prevailing views of many. Im not picking on you because other individuals posting about neighborhoods near other colleges around the country have voiced views similar to yours. Notwithstanding any additional comments you may choose to make, you will not hear back from me on this post. Good luck to you in your collegiate pursuits.</p>
<p>thanx, now lets get back on topic, does anyone have anymore comments on the area??</p>
<p>I have quite a few comments about this area. I work for a property management/ Investment/ Construction management company, and our office is located right around 18th & Montgomery avenue. i have been working here for 2 + years now. There are definitely areas around temple that you do want to avoid. My company owns and manages over 30 properties in the temple area, so i would say i may have the best comment. anything around 12th & Dauphin, 11th & Susquehanna, 17th & Dauphin. really you do not want to go past Diamond street or 19th & Diamond. the most desired area would be from 18th & Oxford to 18th & Diamond, 17th & Oxford to 17th & Diamond, 16th & Oxford to 16th & Diamond, 15th & Oxford to 15th & Diamond, anywhere on Broad street in between Broad & Jefferson to Broad & Diamond is a great location, but the better the location the more money you will spend. oh and anything on Cecil B Moore is great, and i would say all the way to 17th street is also another great location. I also do not know if i would compare Philadelphia to NYC, i think they are 2 total completely different worlds. The Philadelphia crime rate is a lot higher than NYC.</p>
<p>hope this helps</p>
<p>Okay, I’m from the Bronx, live in NJ, and my daughter is attending Temple as a freshman.</p>
<p>I would equate the area around Temple as like the area around Columbia or City College.</p>
<p>Frankly, we think Temple is great, with a great urban vibe. Feels very safe, and feels like a campus…</p>
<p>But you have to want to be in a city…which my daughter does.</p>
<p>If you want an honest reply, yes, it IS in the ghetto. Very simply, that’s what 99.9% of Philadelphians consider North Philly. I come from only 10 minutes away and feel that as a Philadelphian who just graduated from Temple & was a commuter, I am allowed to say it is definitely the ghetto. Many of my friends lived there, on and off campus, so I got a great taste of life as a resident too.</p>
<p>It’s like any city - there are good and bad parts, and you MUST be aware of your surroundings. You won’t want to venture very far off campus at all. It’s pretty terrifying. Even the boundaries TempleAreaWorker gave can be sketchy. I am a total city kid and even I was afraid at times. </p>
<p>That said, the campus was always very safe I felt. Each building has security - and it’s strict. It was a pain in the butt if I forgot my ID that day, but I was thankful for it. At night it is extremely well-lit, and even for several blocks off campus there are security stations. I always carried Mace and whistle with me, because all jokes aside it is a very rough area. There is usually a big security/police presence, but I liked it as it made me feel very safe. At night, always go out with a buddy, regardless if you’re male or female. Trust me, I have friends who have been in sketchy situations and wish they’d not gone out alone. </p>
<p>I’m not trying to scare you; I just am giving it to you from my perspective.</p>
<p>I don’t beleive that temple is in the Ghetto. In my understanding, Temple U. is in the same environment as U Penn Wharton (Ivy League). For example, If we use Ivy league school as an example of American best educ, you will realized that Temple U. is not that far from U Penn, in terms of the area, neighborhood, education. Good luck.</p>