<p>well, if all the liberals voted, conservatives would never win an election ever again. shows how smart they are...........</p>
<p>Well, same with if all conservatives voted, liberals would never win an election again. Bush won on 13% of the population. 26% voted.</p>
<p>you just pull stuff like that out of your ass. </p>
<p>National Voter Turnout in Federal Elections: 19602004
Year Voting-age
population Voter
registration Voter turnout Turnout of voting-age
population (percent)
2004 221,256,931 174,800,000 122,294,978 55.3%
2002 215,473,000 150,990,598 79,830,119 37.0
2000 205,815,000 156,421,311 105,586,274 51.3</p>
<p><a href="http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0781453.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0781453.html</a></p>
<p>and if you don't like CA, move to russia. j/k
but i'm from the YAY and I feel your pain</p>
<p>hahahhaha he must have had to reach wayyyyy up his ass for that statistic.</p>
<p>Since as of this posting ihateCA didn't get around to putting up any stats/links to back his/her claim, I went about finding the info myself. here's what I found, regarding IQ by state. </p>
<pre><code> State IQ WHo they voted for in 2004
</code></pre>
<p>1 Connecticut 113 Kerry
2 Massachusetts 111 Kerry
3 New Jersey 111 Kerry
4 New York 109 Kerry
5 Rhode Island 107 Kerry
6 Hawaii 106 Kerry
7 Maryland 105 Kerry
8 New Hampshire 105 Kerry
9 Illinois 104 Kerry
10 Delaware 103 Kerry
11 Minnesota 102 Kerry
12 Vermont 102 Kerry
13 Washington 102 Kerry
14 California 101 Kerry
15 Pennsylvania 101 Kerry
16 Maine 100 Kerry
17 Virginia 100 Bush
18 Wisconsin 100 Kerry
19 Colorado 99 Bush
20 Iowa 99 Bush
21 Michigan 99 Kerry
22 Nevada 99 Bush
23 Ohio 99 Bush
24 Oregon 99 Kerry
25 Alaska 98 Bush
26 Florida 98 Bush
27 Missouri 98 Bush
28 Kansas 96 Bush
29 Nebraska 95 Bush
30 Arizona 94 Bush
31 Indiana 94 Bush
32 Tennessee 94 Bush
33 North Carolina 93 Bush
34 West Virginia 93 Bush
35 Arkansas 92 Bush
36 Georgia 92 Bush
37 Kentucky 92 Bush
38 New Mexico 92 Bush
39 North Dakota 92 Bush
40 Texas 92 Bush
41 Alabama 90 Bush
42 Louisiana 90 Bush
43 Montana 90 Bush
44 Oklahoma 90 Bush
45 South Dakota 90 Bush
46 South Carolina 89 Bush
47 Wyoming 89 Bush
48 Idaho 87 Bush
49 Utah 87 Bush
50 Mississippi 85 Bush</p>
<p>Now as you can tell from the URL, I found this on a blatantly ultra-liberal bash-Bush website, so the exact accuracy is unknown. The site itself does not mention a real source for this data, merely noting that the British Newspaper, "The Guardian", used the data to coin the term "Axis of Stupidity" for all the red states who helped re-elect Bush. Supposedly The Economist (a renowned British conservative news magazine) ran a similar article on average state IQ in May 2004, but they later retracted it after finding out that it was unreliable data. Whether The Economist was using the same chart as the above is not known to me. I did however,find other data on the education level by state on teh same site. To quote:</p>
<p>"Last week we published a list that purported to show the IQs of states voting for George Bush and Al Gore in 2000. Alas, we were the victim of a hoax: no such data exists. By way of apology, here are two very crude ratings of states' intelligenceand how they voted:"</p>
<p>The data concerning Math scores of 14-15 year olds in various states and the percentage of population with bachelor's degrees or above . I can't copy here because it is a picture file, but you will see that both blue and red states are relatively equal when it comes to teenage math scores, but that blue states tend to have more college grads than red ones. I suppose I could find the actual complete data charts can be found on the Census site, but I believe enough of a point is made.</p>
<p>I do not believe this to be indicative of red/conservative kids being dumber than blue/democratic kids, as most of the "top tier" states tend to be the ones with the most commercial development, ie the ones with the biggest bustling cities. Because most of the "brighter" college grads flock to one of the major cities to find jobs anyway (NYC, Chicago, LA, etc), it just may be that the industrial states attract more ppl out of college for their many economic opportunities. As evidenced by the competitive levels of teenage math scores in red states, it's not like all the kids are flat out stupid. And if I can add another 2 cents here, international high school kids literally OWN us in math across the board. I remember when I used to receive Japanese tutoring from my mom, I would use workbooks aimed at the same grade level as my American grade, but I remember the mathematical content being several months, sometimes years ahead of what I was learning in school. </p>
<p>But I'd say that making generalizations about the political orientation of the 50 states is incredibly risky for different regions and counties have significantly different voting patterns. NYC may vote heavily democratic, but much of the rest of upstate NY is entirely conservative. In fact, I've heard stories of some upstate NY towns where brandishing the ex-confederate flag off a porch or car is considered "normal".</p>
<p>can someone sum up what he just said i dont feel like reading it all....
and btw IhateCA we dont want you in Michigan either better go looking somewere else...</p>
<p>In California most of the state is red outside of the major cities, and I would be willing to bet that these conservative rural and suburban areas have a higher percentage of students going to a university than the more liberal urban areas.</p>
<p>And by the way IhateCa you can add Florida to the list of states that don't want you.</p>
<p>i dunno about that. i'd say if you go out into where the "state of jefferson" is, yeah- that's a red state. but CA is a solid blue state. i live 20 minutes from sodom in west itself, san francisco. hi-lights of growing up in the yay:
-having a friend step on a syringe
-androgynous people
-fireworks illegal
-gasoline costs $4 a gallon
-spanish language radio</p>
<p>taffy knows how tha town get down. EPA, oakland, berkeley, hunter's point, the crest in vallejo. this place is whack.</p>
<p>i like it here.</p>
<p>if you dont like the spanish radio</p>
<p>106.1</p>
<p>they dont have that **** elsewhere.</p>
<p>106.1? THA PEOPLE's STATION! [even though it's owned by clear channel]</p>
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<p>what isn't owned by clear channel?</p>
<p>if you're not a damned citizen, why do you care about politics, being that you cannot participate. (ha, ha!)</p>
<p>Your poor attitude is only appreciated by crappy schools that do not even compare to USMA.</p>
<p>Clear channel is EVERYWHERE. Why would you post in this forum?? To believe I used to think myself a liberal! Every day I want to dissociate myself more and more from the Democratic party.</p>
<p>Well everyone matures eventually.</p>
<p>IhateCA, you are exactly the kind of person we don't need in this country, apparently you're not a citizen yet you live here long enough to get a mailing address and make a move to the other side of the country? Buddy, I think your visa is up, get out! We don't want you, you are ungrateful for this country, being a liberal. I don't see how you could, I mean since Bush's election to President they have harped on every flaw, I ask WHAT IS YOUR PLAN?? Kerry spoke of his fabled plan but never revealed even a hint of it except to say that it's better than his opponent's. GO ARMY</p>