<p>just for the sake of debating</p>
<p>fl7- there is a HUGE thread on this- do a search</p>
<p>Ohio University-Athens</p>
<p>I never understand why Tufts is consistently ranked below UVA, Vanderbilt, Notre Dame, Georgetown, Emory, CMU. I would certainly want to go to Tufts over any of them.</p>
<p>Use the search tool...</p>
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Good call!</p>
<p>gellino: Tufts is ranked below those schools (probably should be equal with Emory) because of its lack of specialization in many fields. For example, Carnegie Mellon has a top 5 business school, top 10 engineering, one of the best CS programs, and other top programs in the sciences, creative writing, cognitive psych, and arguably one of the best drama/arts departments.</p>
<p>Because of this, Carnegie Mellon has consistently been a top choice for recruiters and #1 in Newsweek's hottest college for a job. The salaries for Tepper are 55k base and with bonuses are only surpassed by Wharton. CS avg salaries are in the high 70k's without bonuses and has been heavily recruited by Microsoft/Google, etc. Pittsburgh is also now rebounding as many businesses such as Google open up new head/departments there.</p>
<p>UVA I can also vouch for as I am from the proud state of Virginia. UVA's business/engineering are a force to be reckoned with and 4.0's and 2000+'s get rejected from out of state. Some kids even pick UVA out of state over Ivies or other top 25 schools while no offense but Tufts has the exact opposite reputation. </p>
<p>Notre Dame: I do not know too much about but I saw the movie "Rudy" and if a kid was gonna get his ass kicked for a whole month just to attend it; then it is prestigious enough for me!</p>
<p>Vanderbilt: I also don't know too much about this one since Northern VA is NOT THE SOUTH!</p>
<p>Georgetown: Come on. Georgetown may also lack engineering or business but its liberal arts are amazing. Georgetown is UNDERRANKED if anything as it is a heck of a lot more selective than most people believe. SFS is almost impossible to get into.</p>
<p>Lack of specialization? What about it's renowned pre-med, IR, and humanities programmes? Some students do pick Tufts over ivies (i.e. Cornell, Brown), and the selectivity of the school is greater than the others listed by gellino. Tufts acceptance rate was 23-24% this year (w/ ~15,500 apps; 1433 avg for incoming students). What hurts the school is it's relatively small endowment, as well as the fact that it doesn't spend exhorbirant sums of $$ on advertising. </p>
<p>Truth be told, I'm really getting quite tired of the Tufts bashing that occurs on these forums. Tufts IS considered in the real world, one of the best schools in the country (even if USNews puts it below UVA and Georgetown) and has wide name recognition. You have to be one of the best to get in, and a Tufts undergrad degree equals respect, as well as excellent placement in graduate schools. On CC, there seems to be a tendency to put the school down, while ignoring the many obvious strong and elite characteristics of the school. At the Tufts open house day, the President addressed some of these misnomers that occur in USNews and CC -- the school does not have a ego problem, so seems less "there" so to speak when in comparison to GU or CMU, even though it's as competitive as GU and more so than CMU.</p>
<p>I can only speak for what I have direct knowledge of, so, with that being said, I really have to say UIC (University of Illinois at Chicago) is underrated. But, I'm sure it probably depends on department. Just because I went to UIC doesn't mean I'm biased. If I thought it stunk...I'd tell you. I went there for convience purposes, not for quality of education, but it turned out that I was pretty satisfied with the overall experience.</p>
<p>I definitely think its a great value school, and I don't regret going there at all. The only thing I missed was not having major college athletics (particularly a football program).</p>
<p>I don't think it should be a top 50 school by any means, but I could see it being pretty equal in quality to any of the schools ranked 100 and above on the US News and World Reports Rankings.</p>
<p>Our acceptance rate this year was 28% (just helping you out worldband since by the time you've written that post you can't edit)</p>
<p>I wasn't putting down Tufts at all I even boosted its rank to Emory-status but having just a good IR and pre-med is not diverse enough when compared to UVA/CMU. Yes Tufts has GREAT IR but liberal arts are not spectacular and are no better than Georgetown's. Georgetown's IR is arguably much better and so is it's pre-med.</p>
<p>More competitive than CMU how? I would look specifically in engineering/business/CS as the College of Fine Arts has different requirements that drag down the overall school. It looks about the same to me and with CMU's 20% increase in apps this year it could very well be a different story. </p>
<p>I did check out Tufts for myself in the past hour and I give to you that it should be in the Top 25 along with UCLA/Vandy/Emory though.</p>
<p>PS: Acceptance rates are nice but cannot be fully relied upon. Uchicago/Umich have known to have 40% and 60% acceptance rates, respectively. Likewise, the Tepper School of Business has a 19.23% acceptance rate this year.</p>
<p>To reiterate: Tufts should probably be in the Top 25 and if you check out the US News Rankings thread I suggested it should be. But saying is is more competitive or "better" than diverse and "hot" schools like Georgetown/CMU/UVA should be considered opinion.</p>
<p>Snuffles - we're both wrong (lol) for 2010 -- it's 26% (see the alumni website) ha - looks like the avg btw our respective numbers. </p>
<p>One of the reasons Tufts is renowned for its IR is b/c it's liberal arts education is so strong. It is the only real competitor to SFS in IR/IS, and is arguably better, as it is backed up by a truly strong liberal arts curriculum. </p>
<p>Also, even if Umich has a 60% admit rate, most people in the real world widely consider Tufts to be a better school. And stating that Tufts is not a "hto" school like GU or Emory is also opinion, mind you. </p>
<p>In truth, i'm tired of the Tufts bashing that occurs on these forums. More than any other top institution, Tufts is put down and bashed by CC'ers with largely unfounded, groundless arguments. Off the CC forum, Tufts widely regarded as a very prestigious school, easily w/ GU, Duke, (higher than Emory), and higher than places such as Wesleyan and Bowdoin. Tufts, overall, has top programmes and some of the best faculty. I'm sick of the treatment of this school in these forums.</p>
<p>I agree that Tufts is probably on par with or above Umich (Alexandre's probably gonna come in now lol) but I haven't see much Tufts bashing on here. I think it is a bit underranked though so I agree with you there but along with Duke? I don't know much about Duke so I can't comment there :(</p>
<p>I can only say that in my experience from living in the Northern VA area that Georgetown's IR is arguably #1 for job opps/interns and location and I come from a place where half the population is driving Beemers and Mercedes' to D.C. everyday.</p>
<p>washington and lee, of course</p>
<p>University of Chicago.</p>
<p>I am sorry, but Tufts should definately not be ranked above Georgetown or UVa</p>
<p>Worldband - as much as I feel your pain, there is a simple solution: don't care :) Things will carry on without you taking on the Atlas responsibilities for the Tufts public image!</p>
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I disagree. But I'm sure Alexandre would be much more eloquent on the subject than I. Haha.</p>
<p>If top hs seniors actually believed that the experience and benefits of attending UMich equalled Harvard, Yale, Princeton and surpassed Dartmouth, Brown, Cornell the way Alexandre claims, then UMich's acceptance rate would be a lot lower tha 57%. Why are the acceptance rates of UVA, Cal/Berkeley, UCLA in the 30%'s range and not UMich if they are comparable state schools?</p>
<p>UMich is a lot larger than UVa. Unlike UCLA/Berkeley, Michigan does not have as large of a selection to choose from when filling their in-state requirements.</p>
<p>I hate these type of threads. They are generally synonymous with posters merely stating their own institution or rationalizing their admissions decision.</p>