Ok. GaTech takes only 5s in Physics. But takes 4s in CS. UMD takes only 5s in AP CS., but takes 4s in Physics. What is even more interesting we found that local CC that feeds to UMD does not take 4 in AP CS .
At D23 UF orientation pretty much the same advise especially if the AP credit was for your major in engineering and sciences
compared to an AP Credit to fulfill a Gen Ed requirement
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Then why does UF accept AP credit for subject credit and advanced placement in math etc.? If they really believed that advice, they would not (or only accept a 5 instead of a 3).
The college administration may say one thing but those who live day to day may feel another way. My son was told by students, not the school. It was a student panel.
This is one where you and others will believe one thing and others will believe another.
Itâs ok to believe differently.
In the case of my son, it wasnât relevant. Started a second year but due to the engineering sequence of classes it still took four years.
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A lot of schools have course equivalencies listed on transferology (dot) com
After D19 went through the process I realized the real value in AP and some DE is in classes for GenEd that arenât in your major especially in the STEM world.
D23 wants to be a HS History/Social Studies teacher(actually at a school for the deaf separate story) so all her APs in science, math & English just allowed her to not have to take courses in college. After passing AP Physics, Calc, both English she is happy never to have to take those types of classes again.
The other benefit from all her APs came in the form of a sophomore level parking spot and no classes before noon or on Fridays.
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As long as the associates degrees were earned during high school they arenât at a disadvantage. It doesnât limit them in terms of changing majors. The rule at A&M currently is No more than 60 total hours (including transfer credit, but excluding AP and dual credit completed in high school). Itâs common for students to enter with DC since Texas has a big push now for dual credit programs. Iâm thankful my daughter knocked out 30 DC hours. They all counted toward her degree plan at A&M. She also took several AP courses but none of those courses ended up being on her degree plan so she isnât getting any credit for them. Waste of exam fees! My son will have 60 DC hours including an associates degree and healthcare certifications all tuition free and will all apply to his degree plan.
Our community college sends the profs from the local CC to the high school campus to teach the classes. They are exactly the same as the course taught on the college campus and the instructors are instructed to teach it the same and they are not allowed to change the course at all just because it is being taught at the high school campus. ( I know because I have been in these meetings. I teach at the CC but I donât go to the high school campuses myself). So they are at the high school campus but through the collegeâs normal offerings. Our community college has quite a few contracts with local public school districts. Students enroll through the CC website and are given the section number to register for the section that will be taught at their campus. At the end of the semester the CC instructor turns in their grades as usual to the CC for the college transcript and also sends the grades to the high school to enter on the high school transcript for dual credit. There are some classes that are not offered on the high school campus that the students can go take at the CC if they wish and have the transcript sent to their high school for credit too.
My two kids canât be more different from one another. Son is a gun-ho computer guy. He knew he wanted do computer since he was 8. Community College classes help moved his interested away from coding and focus on hardware. He did classes in python, C++, Java and has a C++ certificate from CC. He confidently knows he doesnât want to be a coder. Iâm happy he found out now as a HS student than in college and has to change his major. Could he have found out this taking AP? We wonât know because his charter school has no AP offerings.
Daughter on the other hand, doesnât have a clue what she wants to study. So CC classes are more like auditioning for her future major. Her first class in Sociology in CC was mind blowing for her. She kept asking why HS canât teach material like this? I blame the common core, but thatâs a different story. Our HS allows students to start DE 9th grade on, so for the next 4 years, she will take psychology, business, economics, creative writing, art, music, or whatever academic subjects she find interesting.
Too many people apply to a major they donât understand and end up hating it. My daughter at least will get an actual taste in that major before committing. Best of all, CC is free to California HS students.
Now I canât say yet how this will turn out. When my son turned in his Calpoly SLO application, it calculated that he had 36 years of A-F credit because if all the classes he took. It also diluted his calculated GPA because now the denominator essentially doubled. We had to write SLO to make sure that wasnât an error, which they said not to worry, they use an internal calculation to redo the numbers.
If the point is about learning, CC classes are great. Any given term, there are literally hundreds of interesting classes the kids can choose from. Many will be UC transferrable. Just know T25 private schools will probably not take any of these units. CC classes taken by HS students usually donât transfer. But the same can be said about AP credits too.
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Sociology is not one of the traditional high school subjects in the US. Common Core does not have much to do with it. What would induce high schools to offer it would be if The College Board added an AP course and test for it (like with psychology, statistics, and environmental science, which were not common high school subjects before the AP courses and tests existed).
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You are Correct. Donât get me wrong, I happened to like the common core. I just think students pick majors them donât know much about because they lack the exposure. Then in college, end up having to change majors or schools. Dual enrollment / Concurrent enrollment gives âsomeâ students a taste of college and exposure to what they may be interested.
My kids look thru the catalog and see whatever they find interesting and sign up for them. Since our HS doesnât offer any AP classes, they are generally supportive in students signing up for concurrent classes.
Itâs about the kids getting exposure and finding subjects that interest them. Itâs free and possibly helpful in their future. This is not a debate on which is harder, AP or DE, but just pointing out kids can have a broader exposure doing college classes and not be limited on HS offerings.
For what itâs worth, I agree that this is a big plus for DE. My daughter did the same - she took philosophy, sociology, art, anthropology, etc. And is now planning to either double major or minor in philosophy as a result of the classes she took.
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I am amazed kids have enough free time to take a bunch of classes on the side. Between music, tutoring and doing HS work I canât imagine doing CC class work on the side. Our teachers assign a lot of work and it takes hours to get through all of it. I am sure some kids manage other things but for us I canât see it without cutting into sleep.
Many kids do dual enrollment during the school day and is a part of their high school schedule (a portion of it will be chunked out for dual enrollment), at least in the area where I live. Or some kids participate in program where they solely take college classes instead of high school classes. I donât personally know many people who take a full course load at the high school and then take classes outside of school hours.
ahh ok that makes more sense ty. We have over 20 AP classes and between honors/AP classes and afterschool activities I donât see enough free time for more school work although the idea of trying different classes sounds appealing.
It depends on the quality of the high school. My D24 went to a mediocre high school, with no on-campus dual enrollment, no IB, and fewer than 10 AP classes total. CC was a game changer for her, and we are grateful. I wish more families were aware of this amazing opportunity. She did concurrent enrollment, and will complete her IGETC next week! She will transfer over 60 credit hours. Www.â â â â â â â â â â â â â â â â â is a great resource!
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