<p>other than drink?</p>
<p>it appears from all of my college friends that all they do in their VERY little spare time is get drunk, get drunk, go clubbing, get drunk.... that seems like a horrible existence to me, actually.</p>
<p>i hear this from a penn kid, a jhu kid, a columbia kid, a brandeis kid...</p>
<p>are there like.. "sober" frats or nething? i dunnooo, but seriously, is that all people do?</p>
<p>Pretty much besides on campus clubs and religous stuff, yeah the only option usually is to party. You don't have to get wasted all the time, but it is a nice social lubricant. A TKE told me once that substance-free fraternity is an oxymoron.</p>
<p>Why is it that everyone broods on drinking in college? There are so many other posts on this site about this topic. They ALL say the same thing: if you don't want to drink, you don't have to. But if you are just speaking from the point of view of a sheltered person that thinks that everyone that drinks is bad, then step outside of the box. If you are worried that you can't get passed the drinking in college, then you aren't ready to go to college. You should be worried about your school work, if you are going to pass all of your classes, and if you are going to be able to finish all your work, not if you are going to be pressured into drinking. STOP worrying about it. I go to UC Santa Barbara, one of the biggest drinking schools in the country. There are plenty of people here that don't drink and there are plenty of other things to do around here. Don't look at drinking as a factor for deciding where to go. Every school has their drinkers, you don't have to be one of them. So can people please stop making threads about what to do if you don't drink in college, because they all just repeat themselves.</p>
<p>the short answer: whatever you choose to do.</p>
<p>I completely agree with you, and I don't think a lot of this people know what it's like to live a totally happy and fulfilled life. Really, you can tell the people who give in to every temptation, and the people who strive for a good quality of life. </p>
<p>I do think there are sober frats, but I couldn't name any right now. I've a friend who goes to a Christian college, and those frats are sober.</p>
<p>You have to be tough, though, and I think thats where a lot of people let themselves down in college. Sure, it's easy to get drunk, have sex, get drunk, smoke pot.. and people enjoy it for the time, but quality of life goes down, but a lot of poeple don't know it becuase they havn't experienced the complete flip side of that life. It's so amazing.</p>
<p>As I always say: if you're friends have to get loosened up or drunk to enjoy you, then you probably need new friends.</p>
<p>Give me a break. Just because people drink doesn't mean that they have a low quality of life. I drink and I consider myself a very well rounded and happy person, and I don't feel that I let myself down. You really need to get off your high-horse and stop judging people just because they do something that you don't agree with. College is about new experiences, and if you can't deal with them, then go live under a rock where you can judge everyone from afar.</p>
<p>Just callin 'em as I see 'em...</p>
<p>So you are saying that anyone that drinks is just giving into temptation, that they didn't actually want to drink? Maybe some of the people that drink just know themselves better than you do. Of course you get the stupid people that are fall-down drunk every night but to say that everyone that drinks fits into that category is just plain stupid on your part. Grow up a little.</p>
<p>justplaying104, you seem to be high on the opiate for the people at this moment...</p>
<p>to the Op</p>
<p>There is lots to do other than drink. Structered stuff like go to a movie, a play, a campus sporting event, a concert, etc. Or less structured stuff like play cards, play ulitmate frisbee, argue about politics, go on a date, hang with friends, etc.</p>
<p>When I was a freshman in college one of my friends told me not to bother going to parties if I don't drink because being sober at the parties would not be a good thing. Drunk people can be annoying to deal with unless you are tanked up yourself. </p>
<p>I didn't start drinking until I was 21, but if I had to start over again I think I would have given into the temptation to underage drinking. For someone who is as reserved as I am, alcohol loosens me up quite a bit. I don't regret the choice I made not to drink. It's too late for regrets. But I did miss out on what many consider to be the ideal college experience. Oh well. I have my whole life ahead of me and many more years to have fun with alcohol.</p>
<p>Every school is a party school, with a few exceptions. Everywhere people drink, don't kid yourself into thinking that should be a deciding factor.</p>
<p>it's definitely not a deciding factor, i know it happens everywhere and i don't mind too much, i'm just worried about how difficult it might be to find people who don't want to do that stuff to extremes</p>
<p>Meeting non-drinkers in college is bound to be pretty much the same rule of thumb as with general dating -- if you don't want to meet people who drink, don't go to bars.</p>
<p>Drinking is fine, but getting TOO drunk too often is pathetic. I think getting drunk to the point where you can go up to a group of hot girls, say, "You are ALL gorgeous, but you are probably all total bitches," is good fun. Getting drunk to the point of vomiting is pointless.</p>
<p>I actually do know of a non-alcoholic frat on my school's campus. It also happens to be coed. Generally, though, it's all about the drinking.</p>
<p>why does it have to be about drinking?
if one doesn't drink, is he or she automatically excluded for the college experience? are they gonna have their own little circle of outcasts? ... for example, is it really pointless to go to parties if you don't drink?</p>
<p>no, it's fun to not drink and hang around people that are drinking. i.e. at parties. you'll get to be the sober one who remembers everything they do. :P plus, not everyone does drink.</p>
<p>Things to do.....uuummmmm.......get involved, join a club - or 2, play or learn a sport - club or intermural, become an official for intermural stuff, go to the rec center, join the adventure club/center and go on trips and learn how to rock climb or caving, volunteer your time - haha - to someone/place less fortunate, write for the school paper, go to sports games, tutor, be a mentor, help with the adapted students program, be a safe-drive volunteer - in other words - take advantage of what the school really has to offer.........I can't imagine how you can't find something to do besides drink your way thru 4 years!!!!!!!</p>
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<p>I never said that people get excluded...quite the opposite. Everyone is accepted regardless of their choice concerning alcohol. And, people who don't drink still go to frats and have fun, just like the people who do drink. I personally don't know how I would have fun at a frat without being in some state of intoxication, but I have friends who do not drink who go to frats and they enjoy themselves just fine. Furthermore, I don't really know what I was thinking when I said it's all about drinking. That's definitely not the case, and there will be plenty to do at any school you go to, whether you like to down 2 bottles of Jack Daniels 7 days a week or you've never touched a drop of alcohol in your life. There are different clubs and groups, and whatever your interests are you will find people who share them. I think what I meant to say is that social life tends to revolve around drinking, but even so, that's a choice that people make and your social life will be just fine even if you want to be sober.</p>
<p>what is there to do in college? jump off a building, shoot yourself, overdose on some medicine.</p>
<p>suicide is like the leading cause of death for college students.</p>