<p>1.) A professor who gives an easy A, but you learn very little/nothing in the class.</p>
<p>or</p>
<p>2.) A professor who's known for being very hard on grades and rarely gives an A, but you learn a lot in the class.</p>
<p>And let's assume the course is one of your Major pre-req courses.</p>
<p>or............</p>
<p>i am in the EXACT same situation as you bc i'm taking a major pre-req next semester from a man who is known to be great, but rarely gives As...</p>
<p>i also had this debate but then i was like 'i'm willing to do what it takes to get an A...that said, i rather have a teacher who challenges me than a teacher who will waste my time..'</p>
<p>dhl, if you want to go to UCLA and actually succeed, then you should know the answer to this question.</p>
<p>I'd just go for the easy A's, ill worry about succeeding later after i transfer</p>
<p>^^^ yeah. Get the easy A and study the material on your own outside of class for the best of both worlds.</p>
<p>you guys are in college for the wrong reasons..</p>
<p>college is for learning...2 year or 4 year...</p>
<p>hmm well since 2 year college has basically been a recap of material from high school and i've learned more studying the text than listening to my awful teachers, I would still go for the A to secure the transfer first. I've only had one teacher (cal III from whom I got a rec) that actually taught the material better than I could teach myself.</p>
<p>And FYI, a crappy teacher that makes it difficult to get an A is not equivalent to a teacher that helps his students truly learn the material.</p>
<p>In fact, the best teacher I've had (cal III again) was actually very easy (got a 97) but I learned more in that class than any other at the same time.</p>
<p>considering how much the latter hurt my GPA...</p>
<p>This class was labeled as "accelerated inorganic chem". The prof didn't put a single inorganic molecule on the board all semester. It was ALL orgo and biochem and it killed most of us because he would teach us inorganic concepts and then make us apply it to orgo and biochem. Our final had 3 questions and each was 110 points. At the time, I felt like I was learning a lot but in retrospect, the B I got is not gonna help me at all.</p>
<p>"I'd just go for the easy A's, ill worry about succeeding later after i transfer."</p>
<p>You're joking, right?</p>
<p>Well according to my experience, I've taken a really hardass prof for my calc. I class. It was hard, a struggle for me. Right before the final, I was one of the only four in the class that was maintaining an A, but the Final killed me and I ended up with a B, and only two students managed to get an A.</p>
<p>Of course, I was left kind of depressed, but I really learned a lot in my Calc I through all the struggles I had to go through. The benefit it gave me? I literally topped my Calc II class because I had such strong foundation of the basic of Calculus I material, and for the Business Calculus (which is basically an Business Application of Calculus I), I spent about 5 minutes studying for the Final, and I still managed to get the highest grade in the final and in the class.</p>
<p>The lesson? One B may result in multiple A's in the future :P</p>
<p>i sure hope you're right because I definitely need that........</p>
<p>haha yeah me too.</p>
<p>true, its important to ensure the A for transferring..but its also important to learn..</p>
<p>...i just dont see how anyone deserves to be a top university and then take a class knowing they will learn nothing...</p>
<p>Many of my required courses have been classes in which I knew I would learn nothing (as I'd already learned it in high school), but I had to take them anyways. </p>
<p>To be perfectly honest, I don't think many people at CCs learn much in their first year or two as they are fulfilling core class requirements that are slight expansions of what was learned in high school. The true learning, in my opinion, has came from studying outside of class and eventually will come when I dive into my major at my new institution.</p>
<p>"To be perfectly honest, I don't think many people at CCs learn much in their first year or two as they are fulfilling core class requirements that are slight expansions of what was learned in high school. The true learning, in my opinion, has came from studying outside of class and eventually will come when I dive into my major at my new institution."</p>
<p>Amen :)</p>
<p>Honestly you have to navigate the politics of life. Saying you learned a lot from a class you got a C in will not get you transfered. Most of the things I have learned have been self taught or I have picked up while working. School is mostly meant to teach discipline and structure in my opinion. The real education is not contained within a syllabus.</p>
<p>lol thats deep sweetny</p>
<p>your right. and everyones different.</p>
<p>lol thanks ;)</p>
<p>I am in middle of an honors lit paper...</p>
<p>I would opt for (1). If you REALLY want to learn a lot, you can just do extra reading on your own time. IMHO, the grades that will help you transfer or get into grad school are WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY more important than any extra knowledge gained from having a tough professor.</p>
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<p>I dunno. I've learned so much during my first two years in my college (well I'm not done with my 2nd year yet, but I've gained very valuable knowledge through accounting), and it has helped me signficantly in the internship at the CPA firm as I could apply some of the concepts I've learned in the course into the real life application.</p>
<p>True, the real learning occurs in place outside classroom, but you'll need to have the basic concepts mastered (usually taught in the classroom) in order to successfully "learn" in the "real life" place.</p>
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You're joking, right?
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Why Would I?</p>