<p>Hi, I am a prospective student and would like to kindly ask you guys for help. What do you think Ross offers that other schools don't? What is the Ross advantage?</p>
<p>Do your own research. Google and the UMich website exist for a reason.</p>
<p>Small size and difficult admissions lead to good placement averages.</p>
<p>It is a small program within a large university. Among elite undergraduate business programs, it is possible within the university that has the most balanced social/academic atmosphere, but that is subjective.</p>
<p>My daughter is a Ross senior. Seemingly, she has had a wonderful experience at Ross, done extremely well and has a job lined up following graduation. We (her parents) and she couldn’t be happier.</p>
<p>thanks guys!</p>
<p>You can get top high finance jobs taking mostly BS classes because top financial firms want to recruit at Ross. To quote a BBA: “Accounting 271 and Finance 300 are the only worthwhile classes I’ve ever taken at Ross.”</p>
<p>^ True, but then again, the same can be said of Wharton, McIntire, Stern etc… There is nothing unique about that! ;)</p>
<p>^</p>
<p>Wharton is not anyway close to as grade inflated as Ross. The average GPA at Wharton is 3.1 while the average GPA at Ross is north of 3.6.</p>
<p>Anyway I agree with giant. It is a place where you can learn almost nothing in your 4 years and still get a good job. It is funny how after spending 2 summers on trading/structuring desks, I can tell you more about any asset class, option/derivative structure, exotics, vol skew etc than 99% of the Ross kids spending 4 years studying “finance”</p>
<p>Bearcats, the average student already has a 3.6 GPA at Michigan before getting into the program. Only good-excellent applicants at the University (students who have demonstrated ability to succeed at the university) are seriously considered by Ross. </p>
<p>And do you have evidence to support the 3.1 at Wharton? I find it hard to fathom, especially when you consider that the average GPA at Penn in general is well over 3.4.</p>
<p>The 3.1 number is from students I worked with this past summer. Most Wharton students actually take as many A&S classes as possible to bump up their gpa. But it makes sense because Wharton has a strict policy that only 60% of the students can get As and Bs in Wharton classes. This means there are a lot of Cs. However, virtully no one gets below a C- unless they truly deserve it.</p>
<p>Check this out</p>
<p><a href=“http://spike.wharton.upenn.edu/ugrprogram/policies_forms/acad/graduation.cfm[/url]”>http://spike.wharton.upenn.edu/ugrprogram/policies_forms/acad/graduation.cfm</a></p>
<p>Wharton’s Cum Laude cutoff, which is top 25%, is a 3.4. That’s already lower than the 50th percentile of Ross GPAs lol…</p>
<p>btw, Stern is also infamous for a sub 3.0 curve. This is from almost everyone i know at Stern. That is part of the reason why competition is so fierce at stern.</p>
<p>I wasn’t really even referring to the grade inflation. They don’t learn anything useful in the vast majority of their classes. <-I’ve heard plenty of testimony to that from virtually all the BBAs with whom I’m friends/acquainted (top kids getting top jobs – they all know their education is BS, despite being able to put you on a great springboard to enter the work force). The fact of the matter is Ross is strong in easily the most important criterion on which a B-school should be judged: job placement.</p>
<p>bearcats, 60% getting As and Bs is standard. At any rate, where does it say that only the top 25% are eligible for Cum Laude honors? At Harvard, over 80% graduate with honors. </p>
<p>Also, I do not think the average GPA at Wharton is 3.1 or that it is 3.6 at Ross. I would like to see concrete evidence of this…not that it matters since the material one learns in Business school is not that tough anyway. As Giants points out Business school students do not take the toughest courses.</p>
<p>At any rate, from what I have heard, Ross and Wharton are similar in their grading policies. Stern is indeed significantly harsher.</p>
<p>Alexandre, 60% gtting As and Bs is DEFINITELY not standard in Ross, outside of ACC 271/272, it is almost impossible to get Cs in Ross, especially in electives where grades are curved to A-</p>
<p>On the other hand, I don’t know why we are even arguing about the extreme grade inflation in Ross, because even Ross students would not deny there is significant grade inflation at Ross.</p>
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<p>Standard?!?!?! Sorry, in Ross courses, students do NOT get below a B- (unless they really do HORRIBLY).</p>
<p>Curve for core courses:</p>
<p>A+: 5%
A: 15%
A-: 20%
B+: 25%
B: 15%
B- or below: 20% <– You have to do REALLY POORLY to get “below”</p>
<p>Curve for electives:</p>
<p>A- or higher: 60% <– Most of these are As
B or B+: 30% <– Most of these are B+s
B- or below: 10% <– You have to do REALLY POORLY to get “below”</p>
<p>“The grading policy conforms to the standard Ross guideline” <– Quoted on most (all?) syllabi</p>
<p>Bearcats, do you have proof of that. I need proof, not claims. You know me well enough by now that I deal only in facts. Most Ross students I know (and I have known many) had GPAs in the 3.3-3.7 range, with the average being slightly under 3.5. I have noticed similar grading from Wharton. As Giants said, none of this matters. All that matters is placement. Ross does great…but Wharton does better.</p>
<p>^The proof is in my post #15.</p>
<p>Giants, your post #15 supports my point. 25% have GPAs over 3.7 and 25% have GPAs under 3.3. That is exactly what I have observed. And it isn’t always the same students who get As. I stand by what I said, the mid 50% GPA for Ross students is 3.3-3.7 with an average slightly under 3.5.</p>
<p>The grading policy of Ross School of Business mandates <40% at A- or above, <80% at B or above, and >20% at B- or below. Consistent with this policy, the course grade will be curved along the following distribution:
A+ 5%
A 15%
A- 20%
B+ 25%
B 15%
B- or below 20%</p>
<p>Directly from FIN 300 syllabus, which is not one of those electives that curve to A- btw…</p>
<p>So now, compare this grading policy, to Wharton’s 60% A/B range policy, which is on every Wharton course syllabus. </p>
<p>Even without taking into acount the fact tht A+ counts as 4.4, B+ counts as 3.4 in Ross, you can see that the grade curve is significantly lower at Wharton. </p>
<p>Now if you believe that a significantly lower grade curve can produce similar average gpa, then we really arent having logical conversation</p>
<p>It’s actually pretty easy to resolve the Ross Average GPA argument, all it takes is one of us to submit an FOIA… Michigan is a public institution. They would have to release that info. Now the problem is…I AM TOOOOOOOOOOO LAZYYYYYYYYY</p>