<p>ACTA,</p>
<p>I'm sorry I was under the mistaken impression that you were bashing Cornell...</p>
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Cornell does have the worst social life out of the 8 Ivies
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<p>LOL</p>
<p>You don't think so? </p>
<p>I mean I haven't visited HYP but I did visit the other 5 Ivies last year and that is what actual Cornell students told me about their social life (along with rumors of suicide and Ithaca being... less than desirable).</p>
<p>Nice ATCA...you had to bring up the old canard about suicide didn't you...</p>
<p>here's a little REAL info:</p>
<p>First some quotes from the February, 2001 Boston Globe article on college suicides, the only such study I have seen. It was mostly about MIT.</p>
<p>"Students at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology have been far more likely to kill themselves over the past decade compared to those at 11 other universities with elite science and engineering programs - 38 percent more often than the next school, Harvard, and four times more than campuses with the lowest rate - a Globe study has found."</p>
<p>"MIT's rate stands at 20.6 undergraduate deaths per 100,000 students since 1990. For the comparable age group in the United States, 17- to 22-year-olds, the rate is 13.5 per 100,000. At all colleges, experts estimate, about 7 undergraduates per 100,000 kill themselves. Calculations based on 100,000 are used by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and other experts to compare deaths among populations."</p>
<p>"The rate at Harvard, with total annual enrollment of about 18,500, was 7.4, with 15 suicides since 1990. The rate at Johns Hopkins was 7, and at Cornell, 5.7. At some public universities that compete for students with MIT, incident rates were also lower: The University of Michigan, which enrolls about 37,000 students a year, had a rate of 2.5."</p>
<p>The full Boston Globe article can be purchased from Boston.com.</p>
<p>The student newspaper at MIT published an article in February, 2000, which provides a snippet of information about Cornell:</p>
<p>"Cornell University is one peer institution that does maintain moderately complete records of their student deaths in response to a common perception that they have a high suicide rate. Cornell had eight students take their own lives in the past ten years. With about 19,000 students on campus, Cornell has a suicide rate of about 4.3 per 100,000 student years for that time period, far below both MIT and national rates."</p>
<p>The full MIT article is located here:
<a href="http://www-tech.mit.edu/V120/N6/comp6.6n.html%5B/url%5D">http://www-tech.mit.edu/V120/N6/comp6.6n.html</a></p>
<p>My summary: The national college undergraduate suicide rate is 7 per 100,000, which is actually much lower (about half) than the rate for all people of college age. Cornell's rate, likely taken from 1990-2000, is around 4.3 to 5.7. MIT's rate is much higher, but there is no full national study of all universities to show which school has the highest. In fact, both of the above articles state that several schools refuse to provide suicide data or do not keep track, including Princeton, Stanford, Columbia, the University of Pennsylvania, Carnegie Mellon, and Yale. </p>
<p>This is the latest data I could find on school suicides. Draw your own conclusions.</p>
<p>I find it amusing that in Warbler's descriptions, every single one is overhwelmingly positive, with barely any negative attributes, except for the Harvard one, which is very negative, and describes no positive attributes whatsoever.</p>
<p><em>is dismayed to find his anti-Harvard plot uncovered</em></p>
<p>lol. I actually don't care one way or the other about Harvard. I didn't apply and I really don't know anything about it. Thus, I don't know how accurate it is. It was the best description I could find. :rolleyes: I'll be darned if I'm going to get a copy of the Fiske Guide and quote it instead. :p</p>