<p>BioE major.
5 on BC Calc. Took Multivariable at UCI after junior year. Got an A. Took Physics C senior year. What math should I take at Cal and when? Multivariable or Honors Multivariable or Math 54 (Linear Algebra and Differential Equations)</p>
<p>Verify with the Math department, but the UCI multivariable calculus courses ([Math</a> 2D and 2E](<a href=“UCI General Catalogue Archives”>UCI General Catalogue Archives)) are probably equivalent to Math 53. If so, take Math 54 (or H54 if you really like math) whenever it is convenient in your schedule.</p>
<p>If you only took Math 2D (but not 2E) at UCI, then you probably have to take Math 53 (or H53) or arrange for taking the parts not already taken under Math 49. You can take Math 53 and Math 54 in either order.</p>
<p>But see the note at the bottom of [this</a> page](<a href=“http://math.berkeley.edu/courses_AP.html]this”>http://math.berkeley.edu/courses_AP.html) about what you may need to self-study over the summer, since there are some bits of Math 1B that are not in AP Calculus BC. You can also check the [course</a> outlines](<a href=“http://math.berkeley.edu/courses_lowerdivcourses.html]course”>http://math.berkeley.edu/courses_lowerdivcourses.html) for lower division math courses to compare the Berkeley courses to the courses you have had already.</p>
<p>Regarding AP Physics C, the College of Engineering allows you to skip Physics 7A if you get a 5 on Mechanics. However, the Physics department does not recommend that for its own majors, though it does suggest taking the honors sequence (Physics H7A, H7B, H7C).</p>
<p>And for Chem, I took Chem 219 (first half of GChem at CC). I have a good grasp but this was in summer after sophomore year of high school. Should I take Chem 1a or 4a?</p>
<p>I highly recommend taking Math 53 with Auroux this fall. He’s an unbelievable professor and it’ll be a good review of what you learned at UCI. It’s also not a difficult class, so it wouldn’t lower your GPA or anything to take it here.</p>
<p>I also recommend Chem 4A, but keep in mind that it’s significantly more work than Chem 1A, and only a very small number of BioE’s actually take the class, so the friends that you would make in the class would be pretty much only College of Chemistry students. </p>
<p>Physics 7A is a pretty useless class, to be honest, so you should skip it if you get a 5 on mechanics and at least a 4 on electricity and magnetism. </p>
<p>A schedule of Math 53, Physics 7B, Chem 4A, and a humanities class would probably be a good schedule, at least in my opinion.</p>
<p>And then should I take chem4b or go straight into orgo (3a-b/112a-b)?</p>
<p>Chemistry 219 at which community college? [Welcome</a> to ASSIST](<a href=“http://www.assist.org%5DWelcome”>http://www.assist.org) says that there is a Chemistry 219 at [Santiago</a> Canyon College](<a href=“Welcome to ASSIST”>Welcome to ASSIST) and [Santa</a> Ana College](<a href=“Welcome to ASSIST”>Welcome to ASSIST) that are equivalent to Berkeley Chemistry 1A.</p>
<p>So if that is the course you took, and you remember the material well, then you do not need to take Chemistry 1A at all and can take Chemistry 3A/3AL (or 1B and 112A). If you wish to retake that material, you can choose either 1A or 4A for Bioengineering; choose 4A if you are considering switching to Chemical Engineering or otherwise want a more in depth course in chemistry.</p>
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<p>[Bioengineering</a> requires either 3A/3AL or 112A.](<a href=“http://bioeng.berkeley.edu/undergrad/undergrad/program/bioemajor.php]Bioengineering”>http://bioeng.berkeley.edu/undergrad/undergrad/program/bioemajor.php)</p>
<p>[3A/3AL</a> lists 1A as a prerequisite.<a href=“4A%20fulfills%201A”>/url</a>
[url=<a href=“http://sis.berkeley.edu/catalog/gcc_search_sends_request?p_dept_name=CHEMISTRY&p_dept_cd=CHEM&p_title=&p_number=112A]112A”>http://sis.berkeley.edu/catalog/gcc_search_sends_request?p_dept_name=CHEMISTRY&p_dept_cd=CHEM&p_title=&p_number=112A]112A</a> lists 1B or 4B as a prerequisite.](<a href=“http://sis.berkeley.edu/catalog/gcc_search_sends_request?p_dept_name=CHEMISTRY&p_dept_cd=CHEM&p_title=&p_number=3A]3A/3AL”>http://sis.berkeley.edu/catalog/gcc_search_sends_request?p_dept_name=CHEMISTRY&p_dept_cd=CHEM&p_title=&p_number=3A)</p>
<p>Santa Ana College. I got an A but this was summer after sophomore year. I understand it but I might want to get take it to review/get a GPA boost.</p>
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<p>However, there is no real point in retaking the course (in the regular version) if the OP already has had all of it before and understood it well. If that is the case, the OP would be better served by taking Math 54 (or H54) instead, and not waste precious schedule space retaking Math 53. Retaking the honors version may be worthwhile for some students, though.</p>
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<p>The grading curve might not be easy, even if the material is easy. 4A will be all chemistry and chemical engineering majors; 1A will be full of grade grubbing pre-meds (many of whom are retaking after AP credit since medical schools do not like AP credit and they think that retaking known material instead of more advanced courses will help them get an A grade) and any other engineering majors who need to take chemistry.</p>
<p>I think you should decide right now whether or not general and organic chemistry are really important to you and your future goals. If you don’t think they are important,like if you’re mostly interested in biomechanics or computational biology, then you should just take 3A/3AL your first semester and 3B/3BL your second semester to get chem over with. But if you do like chemistry, then I would recommend 4A-4B, 112A-112B. It would take you two years to complete this sequence, but you would be super prepared for areas of bioE like synthetic biology, which involve a lot of organic chemistry. </p>
<p>There is no need to take Chem 1A, unless you’re considering medical school, in which case they don’t want you to skip general chem with AP credit.</p>
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<p>Actually, since the OP has Chemistry 1A equivalent from a community college course, not AP credit, there is no real need to take Chemistry 1A at all.</p>
<p>Right, true. My mistake.</p>
<p>If you can jump directly into Organic, you should probably do it. There can be huge social benefits to taking 4A - especially if there are other people on your floor taking it - but it’s a lot of work and may or may not be a terrible choice GPA-wise depending on whether or not it’s still as easy (relatively) as it was this fall. I took it fall 2009 and the guys who got As were putting in around 2-3x the amount of work they (and everybody else I knew) invested in any of their other classes.</p>
<p>The 3 series is pretty easy, and having them done sooner will do you a lot of favors. Take BioE 10, not E10, and (IMO) try to take it this fall. Terry Johnson is teaching it this time, and that man is ****ing GOD.</p>
<p>Also, don’t take Honors math. The benefits of doing so will be vastly outweighed by the costs to your time, sanity, and/or GPA. Same applies for Honors physics.</p>
<p>Ok, so I think I will skip 1a and go into 3a/al. Then would you recommend 3b/bl for second semester?</p>
<p>I’m pretty sure that Chem 3A/3AL are already full though. You’ll probably have to wait until second semester to take them. </p>
<p>I guess you can take BioE 10 instead, along with math, physics, and humanities.</p>
<p>Definitely seconding BioE 10 for the fall. I’m not sure if I’ve said it in this thread yet, but it’s being taught by Terry Johnson this fall, and that man is tied with my Math 54 GSI for “best teacher I’ve ever had.”*</p>
<p>If he keeps the difficulty where Conboy did, it also should wind up serving the same function Chem 4A did for me - you’d be amazed at how much you’ll bond with your peers when you’re all saddled with hard and unforgiving coursework.</p>
<p>*And I had far more than my fair share of good teachers via high school.</p>
<p>Ok BioE10 sounds good. Then should I skip 3b/bl or do it fall 2012?</p>
<p>If you take 3A, take 3B.
If you take 112A, you don’t really need to bother with 3B/112B.</p>
<p>3B’s important pretty much entirely because it teaches you functional groups and a few things about benzene. AFAIK 112A covers every functional group covered in 3A and 3B but doesn’t really look at benzene that much; it’s also an easier class, so it may be worth looking at. I don’t know how strict they are with the prereqs. Definitely don’t take 112B.</p>
<p>The bioengineering major does not actually require Chemistry 3B/3BL:
[Major</a> Requirements](<a href=“http://bioeng.berkeley.edu/undergrad/undergrad/program/bioemajor.php]Major”>http://bioeng.berkeley.edu/undergrad/undergrad/program/bioemajor.php)</p>
<p>Chemistry 3B/3BL (or 112B) is recommended for the pre-med or synthetic biology concentrations, though.</p>