<p>the exact wording is if you have applied to or expect to....</p>
<p>so can I just list the ones I've already submitted EA apps to and then add some that I "expect" to, while avoiding some ones that I don't want to list because I can submit the app before I "expected" to apply to those?</p>
<p>Honestly, just answer truthfully. Even if all the other schools you are applying to are all Ivies and such, it’s not a big deal as long as you can write a compelling essay as to why you want to go to Rice.</p>
<p>Schools are known to swap lists, so it is best to be honest.</p>
<p>Rice would be dumb to assume that you are RD-ing only to Rice. They expect you to apply to competing schools. As demonsword says, focus on the essay</p>
<p>Well I’ve applied early action somewhere and I don’t expect to apply to all the schools on my list once I’ve gotten that decision so I could “lie” about it even though it wouldn’t even be a lie because I don’t EXPECT to apply to all</p>
<p>It’s not a lie. The app asks where you “expect” to. OK, so maybe it’s sort of fudging the truth but I don’t see how answering completely honestly would help you–it can only hurt. I don’t see how it’s any of their business anyway.</p>
<p>Tilgaham is right. Even if it isn’t a “lie”, it isn’t worth the attempted deception.</p>
<p>Rice expects their applicants to apply to peer schools. I applied to UChicago, JHU, CMU, Cornell, Tufts, Stanford and some others. I listed the whole lot and it evidently didn’t hurt me.</p>
<p>As for this "I don’t see how it’s any of their business anyway. "They are admitting you to their school and giving you a very coveted spot over many others. I think they expect you to be forthcoming at least. They also want to know for comparative reasons such as Rice applicants also applied to x, y, z.</p>
<p>In summary, do whatever you want but the advice from a Rice Grad and a current Rice student is to be honest. You can take it or leave it.</p>
<p>I seriously believe that answering with competitive schools makes Rice want to, if you are a compelling applicant and they believe you can get in there, convince you to turn those schools down. I answered honestly with MIT, Columbia, Cornell, UPenn, Berkeley, Chicago, etc, and got a hugeass merit scholarship in return.</p>
<p>Watch it! It does hurt. I’m sure DS was WL instead of accepted based on his list. He included his brother’s school, which is a peer school. He was extremely well qualified and should have gotten in. He went to an equally good school, but not his brother’s.</p>
<p>Yeah, I’m pretty sure this is not something really heavily considered by the admissions office. More likely than being WL’ed due to the list, limabeans, your son probably did not come across as passionately as other, similarly “extremely well qualified” students.</p>
<p>“I’m sure DS was WL instead of accepted based on his list.”</p>
<p>I highly doubt that. Rice has enough and more valid reasons to reject almost every single applicant they get. I don’t think they will be staring at this list and making final cuts.</p>
<p>Also, if this were true, Tilgaham, silentsailor and I amongst many others would not be at Rice.</p>
<p>What would be the harm of leaving it blank? If it is for data collection, you arent obligated to provide it. And if you fear it might hurt, whether or not it will, why risk it? My s applied ED so it was a non issue, but I recall when younger s turned down Emory to attend another school. They asked where else he applied and what school he chose to attend. I think he chose not to disclose this to them</p>
<p>I think it’s harmless to list the schools you’re applying to. The schools are just curious about their “competition,” I think. And I’ve also always wondered if maybe they’re trying to see whether you have a “type” of school in mind, and whether you know yourself and your own “fit,” or whether you’re just shooting in the dark at the supposedly “prestigious” schools.</p>
<p>(I wonder this because it seems that interviewers always ask my kids what other schools they’re applying to, and then, if the interviewer thinks that the schools differ in size or “feel,” they comment out loud on that. “Oh! Interesting! You’ve got a whole range of sizes there.” Or “Oh. You’ve got quite the variety of schools on your list!” – even though my kids and I always think their schools are kind of similar, in terms of “fit.”) </p>
<p>The list could help your merit package if they decide they want to lure you away from another school because you’re that appealing to them. My kids have always truthfully listed them. And, whether “the list” has anything to do with it or not, they’ve been awarded huge merit packages from every school. (But, they were great candidates for their schools in lots of ways anyway-- so “the list” could have had nothing to do with it. Speaking of that … my family believes THAT’S the key to large merit packages, aside from the obvious – applying to schools that offer large merit packages – APPLY ONLY TO SCHOOLS THAT ARE AN EXCELLENT FIT. If the school fits you, then chances are much higher that the school will think YOU fit the school! Or so WE think. )</p>
<p>jym - I don’t think there is a problem with leaving it blank. I think that is much better than partially disclosing information or deliberately lying on it.</p>
<p>Let me explain something that is very simple to all of you thinking about withholding information. Rice has something called an Honor Code. It’s a policy of trust that lets us have things like un-proctored and take home exams. You aren’t students yet, so the code doesn’t apply to you, but if you can’t answer a simple question honestly in your application, how can we expect you to follow the code when you come to Houston? </p>
<p>If you honestly think that putting down that you’re applying to peer institutions and Ivy league schools is going to “hurt you” you’re sorely mistaken. Instead of wasting your time worrying about this, you should be refining your essay–something that actually matters. </p>
<p>Grow up, answer the question, and click submit. </p>