<p>So, we know that 21.5% are accepted. But how many are deferred?</p>
<p>Historically it's about 20% accept, 75% defer, 5% reject. It has been approximately those percentages over the past 3-4 years.</p>
<p>for real? why do they not reject <em>almost</em> anybody?</p>
<p>well, they like to keep options open :)</p>
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<p>why do they not reject <em>almost</em> anybody?</p>
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<p>They only reject if they are certain that there is nothing in the world that could possibly change their minds before April. If the kid's record is nothing outstanding, but there's no strikes against him, then hypothetically he could win the Pulitzer Prize in March or something, and they would be glad he was still in the pool. To be rejected in the early round means in essence that they wouldn't admit you no matter what miracles took place in the spring.</p>
<p>Well then I guess that settles it. I have three months to win the Pullitzer Prize.</p>
<p>out of 75 % deferred how many are eventually accepted???/
Better or worse than RD?</p>
<p>Probably around 6%.</p>
<p>It is virtually the same as the acceptance rate for RD, which is around 5 to 6%.</p>
<p>So they keep you, not because you might get in with your current application in what should be a slightly weaker overall pool, but because you might suddenly improve before the next round?</p>
<p>The Ace is Back- I don't think that's a good way to put it. I, for example, didn't do anything special after I got deferred (I sent them a letter, but nothing noteworthy). They usually just want to look at your application in the context of the new pool.</p>
<p>are an increase in SAT scores, say 100 points going to make a difference when being reassessed in the RD round?</p>
<p>So Admiral, what sort of stuff did you write in the letter? I don't really have a clue what happens now, what can/should I do between now and then?</p>
<p>LadyLou - what are your scores like now? Do you have any good ECs?</p>
<p>it is disheartening to think that, in a pool of 4000, i couldn't make the top 21%, but to get in now, I have to make the top 5% in a pool of 19000.</p>
<p>also, for admiral, what exactly does it mean to "look at your application in the context of the new pool"? why would this reveal information about the applicant that wasn't contained in the application?</p>
<p>2170 on SAT I. My weakness in my 680 on writing, and i figure i could improve that by 50 points if I work.</p>
<p>Not really got any fab extracurriculars, i'd just describe myself as the 'all-rounder'
(u'll probs understand these ECs, being from england)
1st team Squash
1st team club hockey
county cricketer
Passed grade 8 piano
Play bass guitar for school swing band and a rock band
Do a fair bit of maths mentoring at a local state school
And the old prefect, which is completely meaningless, but I can write about it in a 'reflective' way!</p>
<p>what school are you at ace?</p>
<p>I am merely hypothesising here... but say you were a really outstanding bassonist (someone brought this up a while ago) and you academic were okay, but not going to get you in. Say, they really want a bassoonist (for whatever reason) they may defer you to see if any other outstanding bassoon players apply, who maybe are better academically, or whatever.</p>
<p>Harvard have themselves in a position almost unique among world universities (in UK, only ox and cam are comparable) in that nearly everyone they offer a place to will come, so they dont really need to 'bag' certain people early on.</p>
<p>But, what do I know, its just my wacky idea. I have a feeling we all like to read into admissions to much, or maybe we dont.</p>
<p>Re: it being a bit disheartening to think we weren't in the top 20%...</p>
<p>I originally thought this, but when you remember that a number of those admits will be athletes who are playing a completely different ball game when it comes to getting in (no pun intended ;)) and also the legacies, who although not completely different from the rest, are still in a different situation, it doesnt seem quite so bad. :)</p>
<p>Is there anyway to tell if we were deferred whether we almost made it and got deferred or almost rejected and got deferred? (Basically, if the app. was at the top of the list or the bottom of the deferred pile, since ~75% got deferred). Also, what should we do now after we are deferred? </p>
<p>Lastly, is it safe to say that someone deferred and rejected from harvard would also be rejected or have a higher chance being rejected at other ivies or stanford, mit...etc?</p>
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<p>I would call on Monday to see if you can fish around for information. You can also have your guidance counselor call to see if he/she can fish for information as well. Due to legal reasons, admissions officers cannot come right out and say what got you deferred. In fact, in most cases, there is not a reason! It just so happened one person happened to be more compelling than others, etc.</p>