<p>I made a mini list in the Biggest Cons of IU thread but I figure I would make a better one here.</p>
<p>I'm a current Jr, soon to be senior at Kelley- I finished ICORE this year and next year will be entering the 3/2 Accounting MBA program with an additional finance B.S. degree. I was NOT a direct admit so I had to go through the whole process of applying for Kelley, ICORE, and the 3/2 MBA program. I'm an out of state student and not in the Hutton honors college but am a Founders Scholar (3.8 GPA + students)</p>
<p>From everything I've heard from professors competition to get into Kelley is getting pretty brutal with record number of students applying for the business school. Here's my list of classes that are difficult, what professors to take, how to make sure you're on the right track, and some other things I've learned that has helped me be successful.</p>
<p>Hard PreReqs for Kelley that WILL consume a large chunk of time for an A-</p>
<p>Bus-K 201 (only hard if you're not a logical computer person) -- take AMY OR ERIC KINSER they prep you for the practicals so well when you get in there it's just like showing up for class. DO NOT MISS CLASS - EVER - my brother had a solid 95 percent, took the week of little 500 off and bombed the second practical even though he got my notes.</p>
<p>Bus-X201 (continuation of K 201) Again take the Kinsers especially Eric he's got the easiest projects and grades them very loosely.</p>
<p>Econ e370 (my exam scores were 77, 65, 95, 88 and my final grade? 103 % it is just curved THAT much b/c there is one professor and she is horrible) - The only saving grace for me was I had Bing Li for my lab instructor and he was awesome taught me every thing.</p>
<p>Bus-A100 (intro accounting- how hard could it be? just wait haha, they make it unnecessarily difficult aka weed out class)- Tiller doesn't teach this class anymore but I think his wife does and she still uses his exams so...good luck if you haven't had accounting in high school. </p>
<p>Bus-A 202 (managerial accnting for me was harder than financial- if you're good with numbers like me it'll prob be the same otherwise A201 financial accounting will be harder for you ). If there's a good teacher for 202 I couldn't find one, not really necessary since every thing was in the book but the sheer volume of info thrown at you sucks. </p>
<p>Bus-X204- if you get Angela Burkes - it is the EASIEST least time consuming class on here outside of X220. If not this is a brutal communications class with exams every week and a huge Target project on top of said exams. So basically wait until you can get Angela Burkes- we were out of class 20 mins early every day- 0 exams yes ZERO except for the departmental final which everyone took- 4 journals that were graded for completion - and just the Target case at the end. Plus she is the nicest person you will ever meet. Writes killer recommendations too- she's got a J.D. from Harvard, former runnerup for senator. </p>
<p>The rest are pretty easy but if you're not a direct admit the competition to get into Kelley is getting pretty brutal, so I would check ratemyprofessors.com and see who you are getting even if it messes up your schedule an easy A is worth it every time TRUST me especially if you're paying out of state like me, DO NOT waste your time and money getting C's because you don't want to wait an hour or two between classes when u can get A's. </p>
<p>--- Easier classes w/ professors I took-- I, by the way, ALWAYS check ratemyprofessors.com to see who i'm taking even after getting into Kelley.</p>
<p>Bus- X100 Take Myron Kanning - easy A just show up and take notes. </p>
<p>Math-M 119 survey of Calc - Take Graham - his exams were EXACTLY like his practice exam with different numbers. He is as boring as boring gets but who cares when you're getting an easy A for a 100 lvl class? The aim is to get IN Kelley right?</p>
<p>Bus-X 220 - Take anyone it doesn't matter it's a joke of a class with 75 percent attendance, so show up and collect your A. </p>
<p>Bus-G202 - must take Kreft. Steve Kreft is preferred but his wife is also good. If you get the Krefts, the class is a breeze - you must show up everyday and do the practice exam packets or you = lost.</p>
<p>Bus- L201 - lot of reading but if you have a good memory it's an easy class if not than this will be in the time consuming section for you. </p>
<p>Classes I would take during the summer and transfer-</p>
<p>Take classes you're not sure about getting an A in as the credit will transfer but not the grade (although Kelley does look at the grade during the app process). </p>
<p>Classes I took- Eng- W 131 and Econ E 201 first summer
Econ e 202 next summer. I think the Prereq for Econ E370 requires E201 only but I could be wrong and it requires both 201 and 202 (Macro and micro econ) either way it works out. </p>
<p>You can do X104 (first lvl english comm class) during the summer too but thats 2 classes each summer. </p>
<p>---Studying advice---
You'll frequently hear that college is what you make of it - especially at Kelley - they say it A LOT- and it's true. Ppl don't look for the extra resources you paid tuition for. Here's a few things you can do to study SMART not hard.</p>
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<li><p>Seek help immediately for topics you don't understand- Professors at IU really care about their students even some of the bad ones. Approach them after class or if you're not able to, email them as soon as you have free time. </p></li>
<li><p>If you get stuck with a craptastic professor who doesn't help you- find a different one in the same department. Who cares if they're not YOUR professor, they still teach the topic. </p></li>
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<p>-At Kelley UNLIKE a lot of other schools within IU, the PROFESSORS are usually more helpful than their Teaching Assistants because their TA's are doing a pretty rigorous grad program. So go see your professor - plus you'll get to know them which = Letters of recommendation. </p>
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<li><p>Make friends and go out - I tried breaking out of my high school routine 80 % play 20 study and tried to study 100 % of the time my first semester here. Horrible idea. My grades were excellent but I was miserable. I decided to balance my social and school life knowing that my priorities were school first if it was a tie break situation and I have made awesome friends, maintained good grades, joined clubs, and go out twice a week (usually). Do I have to miss out on some thurs/Friday ragers occasionally? yeah you bet but I am just not able to do both all the time. You might be more efficient than I am and can</p></li>
<li><p>Studying in groups is an excellent strategy IF YOU ARE NOT CRAMMING for a test and you've done some studying on your own. Example 3 days before exam- studying in group is helpful because you can teach or learn a topic to/from someone else. 2 days before example study by yourself. Day before study with group reinforcing material knowledge by teaching others and getting last minute clarification. If you're cramming, I find I can get through more material by myself but that's me. </p></li>
<li><p>If you have time between classes just restudy the material from the last class and by restudy I mean re skim or reread notes. Usually the preKelley classes have a lot of regurgitation where all you can do is memorize. I find I don't have to study as much later and retain more if I do this. </p></li>
<li><p>I don't pull all nighters either, they mess me up for all my other classes and I do worse on exams but again this might just be me. </p></li>
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<p>-Oh good places to study I almost forgot-<br>
Ok the library is always PACKED but if you go to the quiet side 4th floor there's usually seats open. -parking is a pain - take the bus or walk.</p>
<p>The business school 4th floor has two computer labs that stay open until midnight and they have empty class rooms all over the building that never closes- bring a laptop though no comps in the rooms - might change after the remodel this summer. </p>
<p>The law library on the south side of campus is pretty good always an open seat there. </p>
<p>Hope that helps and good luck.</p>
and out of her 3 sections that was the lowest, the others were 3.7 and 3.8 meaning as an entire section their average was an A. unreal</p>
i put undecided; so i was wondering if theres a huge diff between getting your buisness degree in whatever outside of kelly… thanks!</p>