<p>It's pretty sad that people want to lie. I mean if you have to lie to get into a university, then you obviously do not deserve to be there in the first place.</p>
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<p>Unfortunately many times this is too controversial an issue. Many students can claim to be "hispanic" or partially african-america and it is extremely difficult to verify. Extensive research would need to be done on one's family history, and if a claim is made that someone was dishonest about this and weren't the school may find themselves in a lot of heat.</p>
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It's pretty sad that people want to lie. I mean if you have to lie to get into a university, then you obviously do not deserve to be there in the first place.
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<p>Most people lie. Students are able to make many claims regarding clubs and organizations that colleges simply do not have the time, or the willingness to allocate resources for something so simple. Adults often lie on their resumes as well, bending the truth about responsibilities held at certain jobs. It is all a matter of persuasion IMO. Some are able to sell themselves better than others and come off more accomplished, and little white lies are often part of there marketing agenda.</p>
<p>I started a thread yesterday in this forum regarding colleges unwillingness to conduct background checks on students. I feel as though part of the unwillingness is due to the sheer volume of students who tend to "bend the truth." Whether it's a lie about working at a family business consistently through HS, an EC, an award, Etc.. I have a feeling that cheating to get accepted is more common than most would think. Employers do comprehensive background checks, colleges should do the same. Another issue with background checks may be the claims of discrimination due to rejection lead on by an arrest, which was a local issue here in NYC a few years back.</p>
<p>It's unethical?? And with lying, you're taking a risk.</p>
<p>It's unlikely you'd get caught.. but whatever.</p>
<p>live your life feeling guilty all the time</p>
<p>Some of us might forgive a few fibs, such as:
"I really haven't made up my mind what my first choice school is."
"I really like the idea of a core curriculum/I'm really interested in the freedom to choose my own curriculum."
"I can definitely see myself at this school."</p>
<p>LOL. I think some of you are a little too dramatic.. Like "you will live your life with guilt".. I doubt if someone's unethical enough to lie on their App they will much guilt at all. lol.</p>
<p>Rosh420 - excellent point, every person needs to do whatever they feel necessary to achieve their goals, if that requires lying on an application, by any means necessary. If colleges were concerned about this they would be doing some more research on their applicants. That's life, people will always cheat to pull ahead. If you feel it is unethical don't do it, to each his own.</p>
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However, I think this is comparable to riding a train with no ticket- you can probably get away with it, but if they happen to come through and check, you're landed with a fine equal to the price of the longest possible journey (could be $300).
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I did that once. It was a $3 ticket and they fined me a total of 50 cents</p>
<p>This poster's screen name really says it all. If you are so self-involved that you can't see the reasons for living a life of integrity, then you deserve the unhappiness that you will eventually have. You might very well get into a college or two based on lies. And, you might very well matriculate, have a great four years, and graduate. You may be right, that a school has too much to do to find this out. It's very important, though, to have a fabulous memory. You don't want to make any slip-ups now. The best thing about telling the truth, is that you really don't have to worry about remembering the story you told and to whom you told what. You are probably a liar in more than one place. Your friends will find you out and eventually will dump you like a hot potato. No one can tolerate a liar for long. So, lie all you want to. Karma is a very tricky thing to navigate. Maybe you should think about changing this attitude.</p>
<p>i bet you've lied/cheated more than I have. in my 17 years of life i've never encountered anyone that has as much integrity as everyone here pretends to have. unless you've never cursed/thought something bad about someone/insulted someone/lied about anything from as small as "i left my hw at home" when in fact you didn't do it, AND you've never made a mistake in your life than might have affected someone else besides yourself, then don't talk to me about having integrity.</p>
<p>They would find you and probally grind your organs into slime.</p>
<p>Notice how this was a troll thread, since he only posted one post...ever.</p>
<p>I didn't know that a lot of people actually lie on their college apps. I always wondered how they could prove that someone was part (fill in the blank for some ethnicity). My application is slightly inaccurate though. I thought I received credit for a club freshman year, but i didn't, at least not on my transcript. so an extra year is in my application. & also, i didn't get credit on my transcript for a club i knew i was definitely involved in (the moderator asked me to be a board member!). but both of those clubs were really big clubs, so i don't know if credit just wasn't given because they were too large.</p>
<p>lol...uhm i'm sure that they don't really care about how many years you were in a club if you were just a member at that time.</p>
<p>yeah, didn't think they would. cus it's not like i bs-ed that i was something amazing.</p>
<p>It's immoral number and it's not worth it to ruin your life just for college. As you might notice right now what is going on in NY. A small mistake can turn your world upside down.</p>
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<p>Maybe not guilt, but anxiety is another story. There are kids who lie, cheat, "embellish", etc. and don't realize for months that their actions might actually have consequences. Every spring, this fear comes through in at least a few threads. The uncertainty of "Well, the school might find out and rescind your acceptance or take away your degree...or you might be fine" is a lot to have hanging over one's head. </p>
<p>It just seems to me that if an acceptance is important enough to lie for, then it's important enough not to risk lying for.</p>
<p>^yeah, that's what's preventing ppl from not doing it...and i don't thin ka made up presidency or a few extra hours will get u in, but mite get u rescinded. def. not worth it. unless u forged ur entire transcript like someone that a CCer knows..</p>
<p>I know someone who lied in their georgetown essays (about some service project) and got into georgetown (she would never have gotten in otherwise)</p>
<p>hey, if the former dean of admissions at MIT thought it was ok to lie on her resume, maybe it could be ok for you!</p>
<p>all of you posters in this thread have lied at least once in your life this is the same thing depends on how deep you go.</p>
<p>yes i've lied, i said i liked someones shoes whne i actualy didn't</p>